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Unread 11-26-2023, 04:59 PM   #1
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Listing on GB has PP grade 16 ga parker steel barrels 1927, 24in listed as being cut but to me the muzzle still has the wedges in place. I've looked in the parker big book and no listing for those 24" barrels with parker steel. Are the barrels the real deal or been cut?

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The PGCA Research Letter page shows the PGCA has records for the serial number 217718, so you could get a letter on it.
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I'm asking about the barrels , are they cut or orig 24".
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I'm asking about the barrels , are they cut or orig 24".
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Kurt, if there is a record for your gun, it would likely specify the barrel length.
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I don't own the gun if you read my first post you will see that i asked about the barrel to try and learn, if they are not cut as the seller says then they are a very special set of barrels.
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I don't own the gun if you read my first post you will see that i asked about the barrel to try and learn, if they are not cut as the seller says then they are a very special set of barrels.
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Kurt, I did read your first post. If you can get good photos of the barrel ends, it might get you an opinion. You don’t need to own the gun to get a letter, and it could save you money in the end. I’ve gotten letters on guns I was interested in at auctions. The peace of mind is worth it.
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This is Rich Flanders old 16 ga that he hunted grouse with for many years. The cut barrels gave open patterns that were perfect for close conditions. I have shot the gun and used it to kill a porcupine after it quilled one of the young dogs.
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Listing on GB has PP grade 16 ga parker steel barrels 1927, 24in listed as being cut but to me the muzzle still has the wedges in place. I've looked in the parker big book and no listing for those 24" barrels with parker steel. Are the barrels the real deal or been cut?

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Lock, Stock & Barrel are very knowledgeable sellers. Apart from the obvious indication, the barrels not touching at the muzzle, the gun is listed in the serialization book as having 28" Barrels. The presence of Keels isn't unusual in cut barrels. Keels were simply used to fill the gap at the muzzle to keep the solder from flowing, and often were several inches long. The photo in the GB listing is sufficiently clear to confirm they're cut. One of my favorite grouse guns is a 20ga DHE with cut, 24" barrels. One of the many guns I parted with and regret doing so, was a Grade 0, 16ga lifter with barrels cut to 24".
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I read your first post and "Yes". A PGCA letter is $40.00 and a Serialization Book is about $30.00. Either one will confirm that the gun left the factory with 28" barrels.
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Edgar, just to let you know that 16 ga is still going strong and I won't make your mistake.
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