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Unread 03-08-2022, 10:16 AM   #11
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Compared to my 2 originals a 20ga 28" VH at 6lb 3 oz and 20ga 28" Trojan at 6lb 2oz
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Unread 03-08-2022, 02:45 PM   #12
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The weights of Parker Reproductions are listed as nominal weight in the brochures, not average weight -- that's why 26" and 28" guns can weigh nominally the same. If one can be so lucky to own a 20ga. Repro w/28" bbls. that actually weighs less than 6lbs. 8oz., I'd say he found that needle in the haystack.
That's interesting, and it never occurred to me that a 28" 20ga under 6-1/2 lbs would fall that far out of the norm.

I have a 20ga with factory 28" 20ga barrels that weighs-in at 6# 7.4oz.

That drops to 6# 3oz. with the 16ga 28" factory barrels installed.

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Not only did you find that needle in the haystack Scot, you have found an even smaller needle in the haystack with your 20ga. Repro w/28" bbls. factory choked IC/M. Your Repro is one rare bird, maybe even beyond rare. Have you or others ever previously seen a 20ga. w/28" bbls. factory choked IC/M before? I have not.

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I just sold a 6 lb 1.6oz 28" DHE to a member. My remaining 28" DHE is 6 lbs even, and my two trigger 26" DHE is 5lbs 14oz. I have a single trigger DHE with 26" barrels that weighs 6lb,3 oz.
A friend recently bought two identical 26" 20ga. Reproductions. One is 6lb, 8oz, the other is 6lb, 10oz.
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The differences in weights of Parkers vs. Parker Repros has got to come from somewhere -- like wall thickness, forend size and shape, LOP, SSBP, etc. Although 20ga. Repros are, more often than not, a few ounces heavier than Meriden Parkers, it's not always the case.

Gordon Gekko once said "Greed is good." He could have followed that up with "A little added weight could also be good."
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Always heard Repro 20's were on the heavy side. I have 2 26" guns a DHE 16 and a VH 20 that both weigh 6 lbs even matching their letters. My 28" PH 20 with Parker Steel barrels is a beefy 6lbs 12 oz.
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I have one 28" 20 but it has a BT forend and it weighs in at a fraction of an ounce under 7 pounds. Interestingly, my 12 in the same configuration only weighs 7-2.
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I just didn't realize that a 28" PR under 6.5 lbs. would have been that difficult to find, and yes the configuration I have does not seem to come up everyday so I guess in that sense it may be on the rare side. I recall, from reading the forum, that there are some 28" IC/MOD 20ga barrels out there, but not that many. This particular one is a pg and has a single trigger and splinter f/e.

I have one other 20 ga (w/splinter, sg, and dt) that weighs 6# 10oz. w/26" barrels It sounds to me that Parkers were simply available at 6 lbs or less, whereas the pr's just never seemed to get there. I have perused a fair number of original Parkers in 20 ga fs and I seem to find the ones that are over 6 lbs, and therefore more in-line w/the PR's. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right places.

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Edited to add: I mis-spoke and Greg astutely caught the mistake. I do not have 28" 20ga barrels choked IC/MOD, they are choked Q1/Q2. There are other 28" Q1/Q2 barrels out there for the 20ga., but I have not ever come across 28" 20ga. barrels marked IC/MOD.
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I spent way too much time taking guns apart and weighing pieces today, but it gave me a little clearer idea of things

With the idea in mind that Receivers may make up some of the variations, I weighed all my 0 frame gun receivers, and here goes:

DHE with SSBP, 2lbs, 15.4oz. (DT)
DHE with SSBP, 3lbs, 0.4oz. (Parker Single Trigger)
DHE with SSBP, 3lbs, 3.2oz. (DT)
VH with DHBP, 2lbs, 15.4oz (DT)
VH with DHBP, 3lbs, 1.4oz (DT)
DH (16ga)with SSBP, 3lbs, 2.6oz.

Max Deviation was 3.8oz in six different receivers. All guns were Meriden Mfg. So much for the idea receivers are the source of the variation.

I then compared 2 Titanic barrels, both 26" 20ga 2lbs, 7.2oz, and 2lbs, 8.6oz. (Hmm, 1.6oz of extra solder?)

I then threw my postal scale in the truck and went to my buddy's house and weighed two identical 26" 20ga Reproductions, straight stock, single trigger:
Gun #1(20-27xx) weighed 6lbs, 5.8oz.
Receiver: 3lbs, 0.2oz,
Fore End:6.4oz,
Barrels:2lbs 15.2oz

Gun #2 (62X, NOT 20-62X) Weighed 6lbs, 9.6oz.
Receiver: 3lbs 3.2oz
Fore End: 6.8oz
Barrels: 2lbs 15.6oz
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