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There is no question that a Model 21 is a well built gun and are rugged as all get out but I have found them to be clubby feeling.At least the ones that I have shot. I am sure there are some well balanced 21's out there but I haven't found one. As far as style I like the early guns with the sculpted frame better than the flat sided guns. Gun for gun The Parker Gun just seems to be more dynamic as well built and much more ascetically pleasing than the 21.
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03-10-2011, 07:03 AM
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I want what Dave had for breakfast.
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03-10-2011, 07:06 AM
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David,
What did you expect asking M21 or Parker on the Parker forum?  What is you intention? Is is as a shooter, collecting, appreciation, upland hunting, waterfowling, clays gun or? If you want the strongest action then between Parker and M21 it is the M21. But if you what to shoot super hot loads buy one good autoloader. The recoil will be far less. I owned a M21 Duck which was a fine gun. I let it go and put the received funds in another Parker. With far too many long barreled 12 and 10 gauge guns my favorite fowling piece is a Parker EH 10 Gauge in which I shot 2 7/8" low pressure loads. I have had performance with 1 & 3/8 oz Nice Shot that far exceeds my shooting ability. So, M21 or Parker? There are some great buys on Parkers in this repressed market. One might even find a M21 at a good price. You might however ask the same question on the M21 forum. I think Dick who runs that forum also owns Parkers. PS: While I sold my M21 Duck I still own a M23 Heavy Duck. The M23 is a Japenese made gun but it fits me perfectly. Plus, with it I can shoot any steel shot high pressure loads without worry. That stated, I haven't shot the M23 in a couple years. I shoot and hunt with classic American SxS's. I hope this babbling helps, Mark |
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03-10-2011, 07:09 AM
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More Coffee Dean!!! That's what Dave had...
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03-10-2011, 08:27 AM
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It was a confusing question that morphed into a discussion of waterfowl guns. That's OK with me. Anyone who doesn't own a #2 or #3 frame Parker, a Model 21 Duck, and a Super Fox, should go shopping.
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Or maybe a 12 gauge LC Smith Longrange? | |
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Or maybe a 12 gauge LC Smith Longrange?
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A former grouse hunting pal has a M21 20 made in 1939 26" WS-1 and WS-2, ejectors, double triggers (yea!!) straight grip, small beavertail, but it weighs a even 15 ounces more than my 1936 Savage Utica 20 bore Sterly with 28" barrels, DT and ejectors. As legs kill grouse, after a full day's trek in the coverts, a difference of about one lb. adds up, especially as we age. I once owned a 12 HE 32" Full and Extremely Full-but at the same aprox weight as a M-1 Garand, learned to love my 8 lb. Smith with 32" VR barrels even more. In a duck/goose gun, where you are not walking afield all day, the extra weight, providing the balance and proper gun fit is extant, no big deal- M21's are "Hell for Stout", but I prefer Parkers and Smiths- and the laws of supply/demand re: pricing- fewer M21's even made than Parker, Smith and Ithacas- 
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03-19-2011, 08:05 PM
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In answer to the original poster, we should own and enjoy both Parkers and Model 21s. They are wonderful guns for birds and waterfowl. I have had Model 21 20 gauges that weighed the same, to the ounce, as 20 and 16 gauge 0 frame Parkers. We have to look at the individual gun to evaluate it's suitability for certain uses.
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03-10-2011, 08:46 AM
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Of the 21's I think the best are the 16ga's. They are built on the small frame, the same one used for 16's and 20's, and are better handling than the 12's. The trouble is that they will weigh about 7lbs and you can get the same ga, same barrel length in a 1 frame Parker and it will weight 4-8oz less and be faster handling. But I really like the 16ga 21's, they are great feeling guns.
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