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I've seen that video before and I think it would be an interesting study if they did it with different choke constrictions, say cylinder vs. full. The chipped bird looks to me to have been shot over and behind by her and I'm betting that if she had a tighter choke in she would have at least broke a chip off it. If you stop it at 2:15 and advance the video frame by frame to 2:18 you'll see the holes in the pattern. It just confirms my fondness for tight chokes and 7 1/2's.
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08-01-2018, 08:24 PM | #4 | ||||||
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Sometimes you hit em and they don't break. I looked at her shot then also one of his and it looked like both were in edge of pattern except his broke and hers was just dusted. BTW if its dusted don't they score that a hit? Not up on all the rules.
I like the shot string and how relatively tight the pellets were. Some of those angles it was hard to tell if there was a shot string. My guess is that they were also about 15 to 20 yards or maybe 10 yards. That wad hitting the target so hard makes me think those were close shots and open chokes. Just a guess though. |
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Got to wonder how close those birds were to the shooter? In some of the photos the wad was hitting pieces of the pigeon.
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08-19-2018, 11:40 AM | #6 | ||||||
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I have always been under the impression that even a single pellet hit that causes enough disruption of the clays flite for the caller to see is considered a hit. I miss so many clays shooting left handed that I have been shooting on a sand bar this summer where the clays land in soft sand and often don't break. I fetch and reuse the whole ones, sometimes as many as 3 times, and some have 3-4 holes in them and are still not broken. BTW, I like my little Atlas battery-powered thrower with a foot switch. Makes it easier to get at least a half decent gun mount when shooting alone. Much better than a Trius step thrower. It's very portable also. Breaks down to fit in a small tote and goes into the back seat of the plane.
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08-19-2018, 12:35 PM | #7 | ||||||
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It has to be a visible piece to be considered a broken target. I've seen more dust off targets with #8, 8.5 and 9's than I do with 7.5's. That's why I prefer tight chokes and 7.5's. Your mileage may vary.
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08-19-2018, 08:12 PM | #8 | ||||||
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Thank you was not really proficient on actual rule and to lazy to look it up. I recall watching some skeet shooting competitions and seeing them score hits when it looked like targets were not broken but did see dust flying of them. Semantics of competition. But I like seeing the targets pulverized.
Carl I agree with you. They were probably within ten to fifteen yards, maybe 20, for the wad to be busting into the target like that. BTW have no idea what chokes they are using either or even what gauge. What I thought was interesting was even in those relative short distances for filming you could see the effect of shot string. |
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I admit I've never seen the calculation, but the wad will be 'way slower than the shot string. Think about all the wads you walk around going to st station 8 on the sleet field. For the wad to hit a skeet target, I think you would have to be 'way out in front of it
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08-19-2018, 11:14 PM | #10 | ||||||
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I have actually seen the shot string under favorable light conditions.
The camera caught this one. It's not often that I miss in front... this is one of those rare occasions. .
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