Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Parker 1904 20 gauge
Unread 05-27-2024, 06:40 PM   #1
Member
Ronald L Richardson
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default Parker 1904 20 gauge

My friend has a Parker 20 gauge manufactured in 1904 according to serial number, Vulcan steel barrels. I can't find any info on Parker 20s. How many were made? What was the usual chambering? Choking? If "Vulcan steel barrels" are equivalent to modern steel, can one safely use modern loads, e.g., 2 3/4" loads?
Ronald L Richardson is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-27-2024, 07:11 PM   #2
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,766
Thanks: 502
Thanked 18,584 Times in 4,764 Posts

Default

The chokes and chambers will have to be measured.
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Brian Dudley For Your Post:
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 05-27-2024, 08:40 PM   #3
Member
Researcher
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Dave Noreen's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,710
Thanks: 1,741
Thanked 8,159 Times in 2,448 Posts

Default

In 1904, the "standard" 20-gauge shell in North America was a 2 1/2-inch shell with 3/4- and 7/8-ounce loads driven by 2 to 2 1/4-drams of bulk smokeless powder or the equivalent of dense smokeless powder. With Parker Bros. policy of holding chambers 1/8-inch shorter than the intended shell, 2 3/8-inch chambers in Parker Bros. 20-gauges are pretty common. My 1930 VH-Grade 20-gauge has 2 3/8-inch chambers.

Longer 20-gauge NPEs were offered, but the heavier 2 1/2-drams of bulk smokeless powder or 20-grains of dense smokeless powder, such as Infallible or Ballistite, loads pushing the same 7/8-ounce of shot a bit faster, that was only offered in the 2 3/4-inch or longer shells wasn't a catalog item until later. Those loads are not in 1905 listings but are in 1910, and I don't have any catalogs in between.

What may have been done to the chambers, forcing cones and chokes in the 120 years since the gun in question left Meriden is anyone's guess. Chambers, bores and chokes need to be measured by someone with the proper tools and expertise.
Dave Noreen is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Dave Noreen For Your Post:
Parker information
Unread 05-28-2024, 12:06 PM   #4
Member
Larry the Gun Guy
PGCA Member
 
Larry Stauch's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 929
Thanks: 3,096
Thanked 1,806 Times in 431 Posts

Default Parker information

These may help your friend.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/31531854052...Bk9SR9Dy0vv3Yw

OR

https://www.ebay.com/itm/32611989485...Bk9SR9Dy0vv3Yw
Larry Stauch is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Larry Stauch For Your Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:24 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.