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Unread 05-12-2022, 11:36 AM   #1
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Default Flues 20 gauge thoughts

Anyone have any thoughts on this gun for sale on the Monty Whitley site. I love the floral engraving on this era of the Flues and have a 28 now. Thinking of adding this 20.

http://montywhitley.com/product/itha...gauge-shotgun/

ITHACA “FLUES” MODEL 20 GAUGE SHOTGUN
$3,450.00

20 gauge, 2 1/2″ chambers, 26″ damascus barrels with extractor’s. Beautifully engraved and casehardened frame with double triggers. Checkered forend and pistol grip buttstock measuring 14″ to a factory buttplate. Weight: 5lbs 4oz. Comb: 2″ Heel: 3 1/4″. In beautiful original condition with the barrel retaining nearly all of the damascus pattern. The receiver has bright case colors remaining over most of the area with some light silvering on the floor. Super wood and checkering. Showing evidence of light use. Mint bores.

SKU: E212192
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I've seen this gun on GI, it seems to be in very nice condition.....

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101935593
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That is a nice example, although I am a little skeptical that the case colors are original.
I noticed a Flues Grade 1 1/2 with Damascus on Gunbroker with what IMO would be original finishes. If you prefer the floral engraving pattern, this one does not have that, but it is advertised to have 2 3/4" chambers and the dimensions are more modern.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/925094518

I have no connection to the Gunbroker seller, as noted before, his prices are generally on the upper side and his guns are for sale forever, I do however admire some of his items

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Thanks for the input Stan. I too see that sellers guns A LOT because he seems to have many guns that fit in my search criteria. And as you mentioned, they seem to be there indefinitely.
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Nice Flues but I could not handle 3 1/4" DAH
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Dan, that’s a beautiful gun. I like the art nouveau engraving and the barrels are gorgeous. If it checks out and you can shoot it, go for it(!)…and post more photos if you get it.
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Neither dealer is giving minimum wall thickness and I'd be very concerned In these guns known for thin barrels and frames that crack.

Flues 20-gauge ad, 1910.jpg

I'd be very concered about the wall thickness on Mikeej99's gun around the forcing cones, as I doubt that light weight 1912 20-gauge left Fall Creek Waterpower Lot #6 with 2 3/4-inch chambers.

The No. 1 1/2 got the bold floral engraving in mid-1915 --

Ithaca Flues No. 1 and one half, July 1915.jpg

By the June 5, 1918, Ithaca catalog the No. 1 1/2 was no longer being offered with Damascus barrels.

No. 1 1-2, June 5, 1918, Pocket Catalog.jpeg

In late 1919/early 1920 Ithaca thinned their line and the floral engraved gun became the New No. 1.

No. 1, 1919-1920 Pocket Catalog.jpeg
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Again, with Dave’s caveats, if that art nouveau engraved gun checks out (and you can shoot), buy it.
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Dan,

Save your $$$ for the Scottish gun!

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Dan,

Save your $$$ for the Scottish gun!

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Hey, that would work, too.
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