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The feel of the two guns, the Parker and the Lefever are indeed different. The Lefever is light and slender and to me it's CG is farther forward. It floats to your shoulder and swings well. The Parker IMO is heavier, and has a center of gravity that is farther toward the butt. So when you throw it to your shoulder it goes easily because of momentum, but it's muzzle does not take off as readily. As for quality? I really don't know. I've seen several beautiful Optimus Lefever guns and they are wonderful with fine engraving and light barrels. The Parkers that I have hefted are heavier, but beautiful guns.
I don't know which is a better gun. After hunting season this year I'll have a better idea. |
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Uncle Dan- great designer, not so good at business |
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Uncle Dan- great designer, not so good at business
You are 100% right about the sidelock ?? re: Your fine LeFevers-- the absence of the various pins (as you can see from looking at the lockplates of an LC Smith, Purdey, etc-- are the "give-away". The lads on the LeFever site can help you more than I can, but IMO- the first series LeFevers as are yours are sideplated boxlock doubles- as the tumblers (hammers) mainsprings, sears and axles are NOT attached to the inside of the plates- Very nice work by Mr. Kearcher- he has an excellent reputation indeed.
OT perhaps- but I find it a bit interesting that the two longest in production American doubles- regardless of type- were under the aegis of solid businessmen- Charles Parker and Lyman Smith- they both hired first rate designers ( C.A. King for Parker- Wm. Baker for Smith- also Ithaca) and the two other really fine American doubles- LeFever and AH fox- were developed by men, who- if I have my history in proper perspective- were NOT good businessmen- Dan LeFever and Ansley Fox-- I can see I'm going to have to look you up and do a "pawn shop recon' together- the $600 is a bargain-- I only owned one sideplated leFever-a 20 bore DS- best grouse gun I have ever shot- like a fool I let a hunting partner talk me out of it- we live LEARN (SOMETIMES)!!! |
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Steve: The Lefever is really a box lock with side plates. Below about SN# 25,000 I think it is, the sears are attatched to the side plates. The hammers etc. are all mounted in the frame. The cocking indcators are mounted in the sideplates and work off a tapered section on the hammers that push them out when the hammers are cocked. After that range of serial numbers the sears are mounted in the frame also which means they are a box lock with side plates for access to the lockwork only. Your DS is a later gun and would be of this configuration. The DS and I were the lowest grade made under the Lefever patents and were the same gun. The I grade was a branded name gun for Shoverling and Daly and some other "hardware store " private brands. All in all they are still a Lefever and you can expect to see almost any combination of features that may or may not be cataloged. Love it to death!!!! Lee
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