Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Pricing Two Parkers
Unread 07-06-2022, 10:58 AM   #1
Member
Richard Muller
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 7
Thanks: 13
Thanked 12 Times in 2 Posts

Default Pricing Two Parkers

Looking for advice on pricing 2 Parkers. These guns were owned by my great step grandfather, Charles Neuviller. I have included photos of the research letter for both guns. The DH 16 gauge, seems to be in original condition, except the LOP is 12 7/8" as my step grandfather was very short. He died in 1959 and I know this gun has not been shot since then. The VH 12 gauge has been refinished along with the LOP which is 13 7/8". Barrels have been cut to 25 7/8". As shown on the research letter, for the VH my great step grandfather returned it for repair in 1915.
Here's the back story, Charles Neuviller lived a life most of us can only dream of. My Great Grandfather and Mother owned silk mills in Paterson, NJ and after my great grandfather died, Charles married my great granmother. My great gandmother had been running the mill for some years, and wanted to continue doing so after remarrying. Charles had no interest in the business and just wanted to hunt and fish so that is what he did.
I would appreciate any guidance anyone can give,
Thank you,
Richard Muller
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC_2887_1 Resize.JPG (37.5 KB, 45 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2888_1 Resize.JPG (41.0 KB, 27 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2889_1 resize.JPG (32.0 KB, 20 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2890_1 Resize.JPG (34.1 KB, 23 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2891_1 Resize.JPG (41.9 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2892_1 Resize.JPG (27.3 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2893_1 Resize.JPG (32.1 KB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2894_1 Resize.JPG (32.8 KB, 18 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2895_1 Resize.JPG (41.5 KB, 23 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2896_1 Resize.JPG (44.7 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2897_1 Resize.JPG (37.9 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2898_1 Resize.JPG (28.4 KB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2899_1 Resize.JPG (39.4 KB, 9 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2900_1 Resize.JPG (40.6 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2901_1 Resize.JPG (29.9 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2902_1 Resize.JPG (31.9 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2903_1 Resize.JPG (50.1 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2904_1 Resize.JPG (36.6 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2905_1 Resize.JPG (31.5 KB, 17 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2906_1 Resize.JPG (37.1 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2907_1 Resize.JPG (40.7 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2908_1 Resize.JPG (41.0 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2909_1 Resize.JPG (38.8 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_28911 Resize.JPG (41.9 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2910_1 Resize.JPG (23.6 KB, 77 views)
File Type: jpg DSC_2911_1 Resize.JPG (24.5 KB, 39 views)
Richard Muller is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Richard Muller For Your Post:
Unread 07-06-2022, 12:12 PM   #2
Member
Aaron Beck
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 295
Thanks: 52
Thanked 197 Times in 120 Posts

Default

Not that its very helpful but if I owned a silk mill, id like to hunt with a DH like that.
Aaron Beck is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Aaron Beck For Your Post:
Unread 07-06-2022, 01:00 PM   #3
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,580
Thanks: 6,149
Thanked 8,854 Times in 4,747 Posts

Default

The 16 has the remnants of a recoil pad. It was attached to the stock with those many nails, as was described in the instructions with the pad. The remnants and the nails must be very carefully removed and a new pad of vintage type can be installed in a way that doesn't require nails. What a wonderful gun. The VH is not a bad gun, just not original.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post:
Unread 07-06-2022, 01:53 PM   #4
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,580
Thanks: 6,149
Thanked 8,854 Times in 4,747 Posts

Default

I believe the pad on the DH was one model of the Jostam pad, don't remember which one. The stock on the VH appears to have been sawed off at the comb and another piece added on, probably to decrease the drop. I can't imagine someone who would just want to hunt and fish.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post:
Unread 07-06-2022, 05:14 PM   #5
Member
Craig Larter
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Craig Larter's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,535
Thanks: 2,948
Thanked 10,405 Times in 1,645 Posts

Default

I can't read the letters from your uploaded images. I will take a wild guess. The DH 16ga appears to be a nice example but the cut short stock is a value killer, my guess is $4 to $4.5K. The VH is a basket case and would value it at $ 450.
Craig Larter is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Craig Larter For Your Post:
Unread 07-07-2022, 01:55 AM   #6
Member
Pittypatdugan
PGCA Member
 
Pat Dugan's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 457
Thanks: 15
Thanked 169 Times in 97 Posts

Default

1500 maybe, you have to find another stock for the
DH 16
Pat Dugan is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 07-07-2022, 02:46 AM   #7
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,580
Thanks: 6,149
Thanked 8,854 Times in 4,747 Posts

Default

Find another stock for the 16? You have to be kidding. The stock on the 16 is pristine and needs a good original style pad, nothing else. Did I miss something?
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post:
Unread 07-07-2022, 05:09 AM   #8
Member
tom tutwiler
Forum Associate
 
tom tutwiler's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 675
Thanks: 393
Thanked 743 Times in 223 Posts

Default

I have very little doubt this was the pad that was removed on the DHE. I had two in the original box with the original tacks included. Bought by a Fox Collector. I originally had 3 in the box and used one on a GHE 12 gauge that Dan Rossiter installed the pad on and yes, he used all the tacks. As I recall the first part of the pad it tacked on and then the second layer is actually glued on. Makes for a very impressive looking pad.

http://forum.foxcollectors.com/viewtopic.php?t=9583
Attached Images
File Type: jpg jostam.jpg (55.6 KB, 3 views)
tom tutwiler is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to tom tutwiler For Your Post:
Unread 07-07-2022, 06:34 AM   #9
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 31,618
Thanks: 35,563
Thanked 33,191 Times in 12,368 Posts

Default

That DH 16 is a very nice example and I would be proud to own it. It’s got all kinds of original condition and I’m with bro Murphy about that stock… maybe not quite pristine but in excellent original condition with original checkering and if you can get a correct pad like Tom shows, even better. I’d shoot Tom a PM asking if he’ll part with that one - but if not, be patient, you’ll find something that is appropriate.





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 07-07-2022, 06:47 AM   #10
Member
Don Mills
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Donald F. Mills's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 171
Thanks: 431
Thanked 544 Times in 113 Posts

Default

I agree with Bill and Dean and think that putting a pad on like Tom shows would bring the LOP back to what the research letter states. The letter was a little blurry when I enlarged it but I believe it states 14 1/4 LOP.
__________________
May you be blessed with plentiful game in the fields, the time to hunt, a good bird dog in front of you, a Parker in your hands and friends to share the adventures with.
Donald F. Mills is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Donald F. Mills For Your Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:00 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.