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09-30-2023, 12:19 PM | #3 | ||||||
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Never used Red Dot in the 12 but have used it a bit for 1 1/8 in the 10 gauge . And 18.6 of Red Dot in a 12 using AA hull and CB AA wad was a light target load even at 1 1/8 ounce of shot . I have a good supply of Green Dot 1 1/8 ounce 12 gauge loads stacked up and have been fiddling with ounce and ounce and an eighth 10 gauge loads going with the powder charges in the book for 12 gauge loads . In the Alliant book all these loads are under 9000 in a 12 so stands to reason in a 10 gauge there should be slightly less pressure .
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09-30-2023, 12:21 PM | #4 | ||||||
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Use modest charges of Red Dot. Green Dot is a tad slow burning for a low velocity 1 ounce or 7/8 ounce 12 gauge load. Look in the book.
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09-30-2023, 12:26 PM | #5 | ||||||
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I looked at red dot in the books and it looked as though it offered several lower pressure loads. I just thought I would check and see if anyone else used it for damascus loads that would recommend it or something else before I bought a jug of it.
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09-30-2023, 01:36 PM | #6 | ||||||
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I believe there were some very good looking tested green dot loads for 12 ga 1 oz in recent memory. I think from Andy but I am not sure. Also as its been said, the new green lid gd may not be the same as the old recipe would have you believe.
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10-02-2023, 11:26 AM | #7 | ||||||
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If you have access to Hercules data for Red Dot and Green Dot from the 1980's many of the same loads that Alliant has currently published online today show the very same pressure and velocity with Green Dot and Red Dot when the same components were used.
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09-30-2023, 02:19 PM | #8 | ||||||
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John,
I have never used Green Dot. For a number of years I loaded 17grains of Clay Dot. Great low pressure low recoil load. When it was hard to find powder a while back, I came across an 8lb. jug of Red Dot. I loaded the same 17grains and did not notice much of a difference in the recoil. Never had that load measured for pressure, I just went by the reloading charts on line. According to those charts, the pressure with the Red Dot was a bit higher, but not that much to worry about. One thing for sure, Clay Dot is definitely a lot cleaner than Red Dot. |
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09-30-2023, 02:25 PM | #9 | ||||||
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I have found this to be a great loading with Red Dot (or Promo). Low pressure, low recoil, good patterns and effective for most situations on clay birds. Stretches a bag of shot compared to a 1 ounce load.
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10-02-2023, 05:40 AM | #10 | ||||||
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I use JB’s Red Dot load exactly as above. From the empty 8 pound jugs I use as door stops have loaded 32 pounds of it and working on a fresh 8 pounder now. My Green Dot jug sits almost unused.
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