PHE 20 ga. number made by Parker Brothers

[Thomas K. Tillman]

HI.WOULD ANYONE KNOW HOW MANY PHE 20 GA. WERE PRODUCED ,(I HAVE A PARKER LETTER) I KNOW THAT IN ALL GRADES THEY ONLY MANUFACTURED APPROX. 1400, MINE WAS MADE IN 1928 AND IT HAS PARKER BROTHERS STEEL BARRELS. THANKS, TOM T

[Brush Buster]

Good Morning Thomas ,TPS says ,25" Barreled Guns in "" 20 Gauge ""with PS Barrels there was " 1 " ,{26" " 71 " } {,28" " 100 " } {,30" " 28 " } {,32" " 5" } 34" None , I hope this helps ! As an added bit of info. according to TPS ,The first PH of record was serial# ,192515 a 12 Ga. w/ 30" Barrels made in 1920 and the last was serial # 235972 , TPS goes on to explain there are earlier guns with Parker Steel Barrels but missing stock books make it impossible to know the exact lowest numbered gun ! Best ; Russ

[Double Lab]

I just happen to have 235972, 26" PHE. 20ga. Anyone have 192515?

[Brush Buster]

Congrats on that Daryl ,What a Great Find ! Russ

[Thomas K. Tillman]

Hi Russ, thanks so very much! How do I get a copy of the TPS book you are referring to? I just bought my first Parker PHE-20 ga. May of 13. I would say the original case blue is 75% . I currently am just getting use to this site. Thanks again, Tom

[Brush Buster]

Hello Thomas , Congrats on finding a Great Gun for your first Parker ! The Double Gun Journal sells " The Parker Story " " TPS " as what they call " Blems " for a big discount ,and the folks that have bought them say you can not tell what makes them " Blems " they are that nice ! It is a Two Volume set and worth at least twice what it costs and is a very much needed series for the Parker collector ! One wrong purchase can cost you a bundle ,just ask anyone who has been fooling with these old Parker Guns for any length of time and with that said ,they are so interesting ,there is hardly a day goes by ,I don't look something up in mine and I have owned them for years ! Welcome aboard and enjoy that new gun ! Best ; Russ

[Bill Murphy]

Thomas, I assume you meant "1400 in all gauges", not "1400 in all grades". The P Grade steel barrel guns are the hardest to pin down for production numbers because there are no order books available for research and many of the stock books of the era are missing. The figures for P grade steels guns in The Parker Story are a wild guess at best. The totals are "extrapolated" as the authors describe them. We don't know what the total of actually identified guns is, but it isn't as high as the extrapolated total in the book. It may be way higher if the estimate was not on the mark. Too bad, all we know is that steel barrel P grades are a bit scarce, especially the 20, and of course, the 10.

[Thomas K. Tillman]

Thanks, Bill yes your are right-total in all grades is 1400 units. See above threads from the Brush Buster regards Tom

[Bill Murphy]

Thomas, there are thousands more steel barrel 20 gauges in "all grades" than the 1400 you mention. Maybe you could be a bit more specific in your comment about "1400".

[Thomas K. Tillman]

Bill, I said there are 1400+- PHE Grades in all gauges. The PHE 20gauge with PS 26" barrels have only 71 made as per TPS. Thank you I hope this clarifies what I was told via Russ and I am not trying to tell anyone anything I am just trying to learn!