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Unread 03-25-2023, 07:48 AM   #1
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Default CHE factory ejector modification?

Seller claims factory extractor to ejector modification & no dolls head at end of barrel top rib. I don't see any Parker repair codes. Claims PGCA letter, but doesn't show it. Opinions?
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Unread 03-25-2023, 08:12 AM   #2
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The seller is a member here. I have dealt with Josh for several purchases and was lucky enough to meet him one day at Morphy Auction house. Had my father (who will be 88 this coming week) with me and Josh gave us quite an education on Parkers and some other doubles He is great to work with and you can certainly trust him. The guns I have gotten from him have been nicer than advertised.
David, This is a great organization, I encourage you to join. I have learned so much from this group.
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That is not a parker ejector system. It is of aftermarket design. I could not imagine the factory installing someone else's ejector system in the gun. I wonder what exact documentation there is to support it?

Interesting on this one that you can see where the rib extension was filled in. Typically on guns without rib extensions, this is not visible.
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I agree with Brian. Look at the inconsistency between the two forearm metals.
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There must be some kind of misunderstanding. Josh certainly knows that is not a Parker Bros. ejector system and I seriously doubt Parker nor Remington would have midified the gun that way.





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That pin forward of the hinge pin smacks of the Moran & Wolfersperger after-market ejectors, but the mechanism in the forearms doesn't look like the other M & Ws I've recorded. After M & W split up, Gus Habich in Indianapolis continued to offer the M & W ejectors.

These were said to be C.A. Fischer ejectors, though not stamped with all his patent dates --

78539 01 Parker Bros. AH 004 C.A. Fischer ejectors.jpg

somewhat similar --

91964 05 Number 1.jpg

These after-market ejectors show the same circle --

82646 05.jpg

as the #2 forearm --

91964 03 Number 2.jpg

Moran & Wolfersperger ejectors --

73542 02 M&W Pat No. 805.jpg
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I asked Josh to post PGCA letter & pictures of serial numbers. He added to posting. Letter states no rib extension on original order. Then latter returned to add 2nd barrel, bore extractor hole out & supply split extractor & return. No mention of converting forearm extractor assembly to auto ejector assembly. Obviously, conversion was done by someone else & not Parker. So much for "all factory special order".
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Picky, picky, picky…





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I think it’s a pretty rare gun. I have never seen a grade 4 with floral engraving.
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Unusual and beautiful Parker. You can bet the farm on Josh Loew and what he says. This is a rare bird with some unusual work not done by Parker I would guess too.
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