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Unread 11-27-2022, 09:37 PM   #11
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Many thanks for taking the time to help in this Lifter's Identity. I have enclosed a clear picture of the barrel flats. Looks to be an "L" possibly engraved.
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The barrels are clearly Damascus and the letter stamped in that location is in reference to the barrel steel. An L would be for Laminated Steel barrels so it shouldn’t be an L but ought to be a D.

Unless I’m not seeing correctly, it looks like other stamps have been ground out with a very small grinding wheel…. Please tell me I’m wrong…

I have a 4-digit 10-gauge D Lifter with Damascus barrels that I’ll get out of the safe and compare and post pictures here.



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This my 10-gauge 3-frame Damascus Grade-3 (D) Lifter no. 5949.
This gun has typical engraving, D-grade bolster sculpting, drop points and checkering of the period.


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Serial number and top rib legend…


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Barrel flats showing the D for the barrel steel, the pre-struck barrel weight of 4 lbs., 10 oz., the 4-digit order number and the 3 above it indicating the grade of the gun.
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Please note the lbs. stamp on my barrels of 4 - Parker Bros used that chipped die for over a decade and I suspect the die for your ‘D’ may have become chipped right at the 2 o’clock position on the D’s bow… ?





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The barrels a definitely Damascus and that very well could be a "D". On the end of the lug it looks like there could be some light grinding mark's. There is no serial number on the end of the trigger guard ???
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How about a serial number on the side of the barrel lug?

Here are two pictures of another D Lifter I have but with the Parker-made Laminated Steel barrels, hence the P in the location for barrel steel stamp.

Also note the two different 4 dies used, each with a chipped section.


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I am not home at the moment but when I get there I will take a look. I am pretty sure I looked on the sides of the lug and did not see a number. I see were you are going. Maybe the barrels were replaced??? How about the serial number not appearing on the trigger guard, is something you have run into before ?
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No, I don’t believe the barrels were replaced but rather believe some previous owner and uninformed individual thought tha stamps were conflicting somehow, so he removed them… maybe?

And I believe your Parker is a very nice, very special high grade Parker and is nothing to be ashamed of.



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