Another show,another gun.

[Larry the Gun Guy]

Obviously, you did well Jeff. Nice guns and whoever restocked the subject gun did a nice job with some beautiful wood. Congratulations on the find..

[Cold Spring]

Originally Posted by Jeff Sweeter

Charlie, it's a 67 Chevy Impala with a built up 327 and factory 4 speed,custom paint,very few parts original kind of like some guns I have but it sure is fun to cruise in.John, I received some info from another that it is indeed a Kautzky trigger and this gun is quite possibly one that Kautzky experimented with. Jeff

No doubt several of the Fox Fanatics with access to the Record Cards will agree that this Fox may be one on which Josef Kautzky did some prototype single trigger work. The button on the shift slide appears to be a pre-full production example. Typically the production buttons were larger and offset a bit from the slide.

[Jeff Sweeter]

I joined the Fox Collectors yesterday and requested the build card.The card reads it wax shipped on 6/15, and by the serial number the gun should be a 1911,it originally had 30 inch barrels,ejectors,Kautzky trigger and straight stock with about identical dims as the current one.Ive been told it may have been used for that trigger development,which makes it an interesting gun.The best thing is of the many doubles I have,this one just fits great when I pull it up.Not many I have fit like that.Its going to be fun on the clay course and I'll bet it gets me a limit of Roosters next fall.Of the guns I have I can't really call any of them my favorite.Maybe this one will be it.Thanks for everyone's input and info.Jeff

[Jreed]

I hope your Kautzky trigger works better than the one on my Parker. I ended up taking it off and putting double triggers back on. Mine had a bad habit of doubling.

[Jeff Sweeter]

Hi John, I've yet only fired it once and the trigger felt good.Hope it doesn't double.I need to get a Crack in the stock addressed first before I feel comfortable shooting it much.Ive had a stock off of a Sterlingworth a couple years ago and don't remember just how it came apart,if the trigger was involved with dissasembly.By advise here I don't want to mess with the trigger at all.It might just sit here a while till I figure things out.I have a couple other guns I'm working on currently anyway.

[Jreed]

I hope it works great for you as well. Just keep in mind if it does double, the trigger may be the culprit.

[Researcher]

From your pictures it appears that the trigger is in the righthand slot and the selector in the left. When A.H. Fox Gun Co. finally brought out their Fox-Kautzky Single Selective Trigger in 1914, they did it the other way with the trigger in the left slot and the selector in the right.

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Joe Kautzky had at least three patents for single triggers -- No. 827,242 granted July 1, 1906; No. 990,562 granted Apr. 25, 1911 and No. 1,109,632 granted Sept. 1, 1914.

[Jeff Sweeter]

It gets more interesting all the time,yep the trigger is in the right slot and selector in left.At least the gun still opens by pressing the release lever to the right. Maybe further proof this was experimental gun with that trigger.Worst case it sounds like it could be switched back to double trigger,ejectors disabled and safety reinstalled. Don't think that will happen by me though. Thanks for info Dave, Jeff

[Cold Spring]

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[Cold Spring]

Originally Posted by Jeff Sweeter

I joined the Fox Collectors yesterday and requested the build card.The card reads it wax shipped on 6/15, and by the serial number the gun should be a 1911,it originally had 30 inch barrels,ejectors,Kautzky trigger and straight stock with about identical dims as the current one.Ive been told it may have been used for that trigger development,which makes it an interesting gun. [snip] Jeff

I'm a former Fox Director and have copies of the Record Cards. Looked at yours last evening; maybe I missed it but I didn't see an entry for a Kautzky trigger - though it did show the Fox was shipped to Kautzky. Typically no entry for trigger means double triggers by default.