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Unread 05-16-2024, 10:44 PM   #11
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Years ago I saw a 50 gallon steel drum that was full of ''Blown Damascus''
Steel barrels. I read the warnings on the shot shell boxes, ''Don't use in Twist
Steel or Damascus Barrels, I VALUE MY HANDS AND FINGERS, so I would Never
Shoot Twist or Damascus Steel Barreled Guns. In my neck of the woods if you are at a club with one and they know it, they won't allow you to shoot .

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90% of my shooting is with Damascus, twist or Laminate barrels, it just has to be respected, as any gun should be.
And they’re beautiful, what’s not to like.
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Thanks for that load Keith, I filed it in my reloading notebook. Unfortunately, have only a little over 1 pound International left. I use it for 3/4 oz 16 ga loads in 21/2" cheddite hulls and DR16 wad.
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DelGrego, when he worked on the Parker project at Remington in Ilion, said he remembered seeing two or three 55 gallon drums of Damascus barrels that were destined for scrap.

I shoot Damascus and Laminated barrels most of the time without even a remote thought of their safety. If I have checked them for wall thickness and pits I am convinced they are safe for me to shoot again and again.

I have a nice 1898 DH that was made with beautiful F/F Titanic Steel barrels but I love the beauty of Damascus so I bought a nice set of IC/IMOD Damascus barrels and had Russ Bickel fit them to my gun.

I shoot either set as often as I like.




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At the risk of repeating myself (again ), but so is Harry
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...hIiY62Hx4/edit

I always warn the rest of the squad shooting skeet at Ben Avery that they better stand back 'cause "these old barrels may blow at any time".
Doesn't help my shooting but seems to negatively influence theirs'
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I always warn the rest of the squad shooting skeet at Ben Avery that they better stand back 'cause "these old barrels may blow at any time".
Doesn't help my shooting but seems to negatively influence theirs'






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Every so offen I read about People who have ''Pet Rattlesnake's'' or some other poisonous reptile, the guy says ''He's a good old Snake'', than Wham,
the guy makes the ''OBITUARY'' list. He never taught the snake would bite him! Shooting those Twist & Damascus barrels is the same thing. One day ''BOOM'',
HELL, what's a couple of missing fingers. BY the way , I like Damascus pattern barrels the way they look. To bad you can't put those pattern's on Tough Steel Barrels.

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Every so offen I read about People who have ''Pet Rattlesnake's'' or some other poisonous reptile, the guy says ''He's a good old Snake'', than Wham,
the guy makes the ''OBITUARY'' list. He never taught the snake would bite him! Shooting those Twist & Damascus barrels is the same thing. One day ''BOOM'',
HELL, what's a couple of missing fingers. BY the way , I like Damascus pattern barrels the way they look. To bad you can't put those pattern's on Tough Steel Barrels.

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Yup- Different strokes Harry.





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Is there any research confirming Twist or Damascus is inherently unsafe to shoot? Seems there is a multitude of people shooting them, myself included. A barrel burst can occur in fluid steel too. I wonder if there is any data, say over the last 20 years on the number of blown barrels broken down by what steel they are made of.
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I am living proof Damascus is safe with adequate wall thickness
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No Mike, there has been no (scientific) research confirming Twist or Damascus is/are inherantly unsafe to shoot. Anyone who states so is simply expressing an opinion or repeating the opinion of others. In the Double Gun Journal Sherman Bell conducted his own tests in order to discover 'burst' or 'rupture' pressures . No, his teste weren't ultra scientific but he used pressure sensing instruments and measured walls and exterrior measurements after each set of shots fired at increasing chamber pressures. Sure, some barrels ruptured or became deformed but these exceeded 31,000 psi.





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