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Chris, Send me your email and I will send you everything I have on Fiocchi 16 gauge loads.
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Guys thanks so much for your help so far ,my current 10 is a N.I.D ,shes heavy enough
Dave PM sent. Best, Chris |
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So back to one of my original questions ...how critical (re: pressure ) is the use of the exact components (well,wads really) in a particular recipe?....sorry if I sound a little ignorant on this ,I still haven't received my manuals yet ,and I like to do things by the book.
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04-02-2013, 07:28 AM | #6 | ||||||
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Chris,
Changing a component can change pressure very much! Follow the loading tables and do not substitute. Mark
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I would also be inclined to back the powder off about 10% on that load using 33 gr of Universal Clays, not only is it high pressure but it's a screamer at 1435 fps. Have fun with the Short Ten. |
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Ballistic Products promotes mostly their products. That's why I don't usually buy from them. I feel they're over priced and all the reloading data I have doesn't include their products. Anyways, you may want to check the base wad in a Fed hull - it could be paper. Those have been known to come loose and lodge in the barrel. That's why I buy the Rem 10ga hulls [ from Precision Reloading ]. As far as changing components, most guys don't, especially if your load is near max pressures. Now if you're loading at low pressures, like I do, there's a little lee way. Win, Noble Sport, Cheddites, CCI, Rem primers are all medium primers where as Fed and CCI M's are hot primers. If your data calls for a medium primer and all you have is a hot one, then going down a full grain in charge is ok in IMHO. I have many reloading guides from the powder companies and any load is shown with about a 4gr spread depending on what velocity you want. The faster the load, the more pressure. So if you only have a load with high velocity you can always go down a couple of grains. Try em and look down the barrel to see how dirty it is. Too dirty and you're not burning all the powder. Also, you can always use fiber wads from www.circlefly.com - with a fiber wad pressure won't be higher - if anything lower. In rifle reloading, a tenth of a grain or two difference in powder makes a big difference where as in shotgun reloading a three tenth spread is a lot of times normal. Just about all powders can be loaded with a four grain spread [ not tenths ]. You have a bigger safety factor. Good luck - Paul
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04-05-2013, 11:48 AM | #9 | ||||||
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WRT the Federal 10ga hull and the paper basewad coming loose. I think that worry is akin to worrying about shooting nitro powder loads in composite barrels, ie nothing to worry to about. The guys who reload the high pressure fast steel in 3.5" hulls are not worried about it, I am with them. FWIW hulls with paper/composite base wads will have lower pressures than hulls with plastic base wads.
I agree with Paul loading for shotguns does not require the same precision as metallic cartridge. http://www.duckhuntingchat.com/forum...?f=14&t=118668 |
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Pete, I've read where the paper base wads have come loose and a blown barrel is the result and a lot of other reloading forums warn of this problem. With a SxS it's easy enough to check the barrels after every shot. The reason Federal shells [ in 12ga ] have lower pressures is because they're a straight walled case and have more volume than a tapered wall case like a Remington or Winchester. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there are loads listed for you to use. It doesn't matter what size shot you use or what type - the bismuth, IXT, or lead, as long as you load the same weight as what's listed. Also, I believe Remington is the only one making a 10ga wad - the SP10. BPI may list it as theirs, but it's still a Remington SP10. So, using the type of shot you want and a Federal hull with the SP10 wad there should be many loads for you to chose from. Good luck - Paul
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