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I’ve shot some clay targets and feathered targets out a pretty fair distance with both my SR7625 1 1/4 ounce load that’s not stout by any means and with my 18.6 gr Red Dot loaf with 1 1/8 ounce of shot . In my very biased opinion the kill range is more governed by the chokes in the gun and the ability of the guy doing the shooting .
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02-16-2020, 09:35 PM | #4 | ||||||
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02-16-2020, 09:36 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Vermont longbeards with my 3-frame Damascus barreled short ten Lifter.
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02-16-2020, 09:42 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Yessir re ability and chokes.
I imagine that vintage doubles were tightly choked and range was great. I was just wondering how close I need the target to kill and not cripple a duck. I have plenty of experience w a modern 12 gauge but really want to hunt w a classic double in 10. |
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02-16-2020, 09:55 PM | #7 | ||||||
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Just my opinion but the short 10 gauge is superior to the 12 if both are shooting 1 1/4 to 1 3/8 ounce bismuth especially in tight chokes, and in the 1 3/8 ounce RST 1200 fps loads I would not go over forty yards to avoid crippling since bismuth is not as heavy as lead.
The commercial 3" 12 gauge loads as you know can load up to two ounces in tungsten but in non-toxic you typically see 1 1/2 ounces at higher velocities, so the 1 3/8 ounce in a 10 can't compete fairly with it. And it cannot touch 3.5" 12 gauge loads, but with steel, bismuth, or alloys I still do not trust them over forty-five yards. Modern guns with heavy loads are an insurance policy but the old girls still work at forty. |
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02-16-2020, 09:56 PM | #8 | ||||||
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A goose at about 40-45 yards with my W&C Scott 10 gauge of 1881 vintage shooting my #1 Bismuth 1 1/4 ounce handloads pushed with 30 grains of SR7625 . That Scott is choked a bit tight
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02-17-2020, 12:09 PM | #9 | ||||||
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I've killed turkeys with their 10 gauge ammo in 5's
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02-17-2020, 01:39 PM | #10 | ||||||
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the old short 10 ga 2 7/8 inch gun has been passed by the modern 12 ga magnum loads...but the short 10 ga is still one fine load it will still kill a duck or goose out to 60 yards with the right shell...such as tungston or heavy shot shells...just about ever body loads their own shells today but loaded ammo can be bought...most all of us have a 12 ga magnum gun but it usally stays home and the old 10 ga is in our hands in the field....why.....because.......it s just that way....charlie
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