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Unread 08-21-2022, 12:07 PM   #11
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Anyone for a novice to be able to tell from home what gauge it is?
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Impossible to do with the pictures.





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The PGCA has no records whatsoever of that serial number.
In fact, as stated earlier in this thread 1844 (probably a typo) is the earliest gun in the existing records.

You’ll need to have the chambers and bores accurately measured in thousandths of an inch.



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Take a ruler and hold it across the muzzle to measure the inside diameter. If its around 3/4 " =/- 1/16 its probably a 12 ga. If its closer to 5/8" its probably a 16 ga. If you have more sophisticated measuring devices, the muzzle diameter of a full choke 12 ga. is usually around .700 and a 16 ga. around .635, ususally within 10 thousandths either way. FWIW
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Grab some spent 12 and 16 hulls and start trying them on for size.
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Hopefully this helps, I removed the forend and took a picture of two different areas that have markings/numbers, the serial on the receiver, and numbers under the forend. What I found interesting is the serial number under the forend is in the wood and matches the receiver but there is also another number in the metal.
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The number on the barrel flat is the order number, not the serial number.





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Try taking other pictures. The only one in focus is the one in the wood.





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Regardless what gauge it turns out to be, it appears to be in very nice condition, and very early.
As I recall, Jay Oliver has a couple of the earliest known. Heíll chime in here, Iím sure.
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