sr 7625

[john pulis]

Hi all,

I have been loading 7625 in 12g AA/HS, STS, Nitro, and GC hulls with the CB 1078clone (21 grains) and Win 209 primers. This breaks clays when I am on, but burns very dirty. Would a hotter primer (Federal 209) burn cleaner? Or should I use a cleaner burning powder (any suggestions). The low pressure and recoil are great on this old SxS (Parker GH/Smith Grade 3), not to mention my shoulder and I have no problem cleaning after each shoot but for some reason I tend to associate this residue with an inefficient load, although it came from the Hogdon's site. All advice and recommendations are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
john

[StubTwist]

I use IMR 7625 and it is dirty but I use it for my 44 MAG target loads so I don't have all this powder laying around. And for special effects, I like the smoke when you pull the spent shells from the chamber.....

IMR powder PB is a good choice and burns much cleaner. As for going to a hotter primer, I would be careful regarding higher pressures than a dirty barrel.

I always refer to the powder manufacturer's load data and I refer to it quite often matching all the components to ensure safe pressures for my old guns.

http://www.hodgdon.com/basic-manual-inquiry.html

[Holeshot]

7625 seems to be dirty if I am shooting light payloads. I shot some 7/8 with alot of powder residue left. Upped it to 1 oz. and the dirty problem got lots better. I tend to agree that it is a sign of an inefficient load. Dave

[Autumn Daze]

I have used SR 7625 for years in my 16 gauge and 12 gauge light loads. When it became a little hard to find around here I switched to PB and found it to be a much cleaner burning powder. As Frank stated be careful about substituting different primers as the effect pressure.I use Winchesters to good effect.

[Big D]

I've used 800X a lot, and it also is dirty, but the reduced recoil and (in my opinion) better patterns make the inconveience of a dirty barrel worth it,

All Primers are not created equal.
Data below is from Tom Armbrust

Shotshell Primer Comparison
Winchester 12-Ga. 2-3/4" AA Hull
17.0 Grains IMR 700-X Powder
Greenduster GT 9210-12 Wad
One Ounce No. 8 Lead Shot

Primer and Lot Velocity f.p.s. Chamber Pressure p.s.i.
Fed. 209A 03513 1251 (EV 14) 10,860 (EV 600)
CCI-209M D03C 1248 (EV 22) 10,460 (EV 1300)
Win. 209 NFL124 1246 (EV 22) 10,140 (EV 400)
Rem. 209STS 1236 (EV 16) 9,740 (EV 2200)
FIO-616 1234 (EV 28) 9,690 (EV 1600)
CCI-209 B032 1232 (EV 30) 9,650 (EV 2300)
Rem. 209P 127 1228 (EV 34) 8,810 (EV 2200)
Fed. 209 A8702 1226 (EV 18) 9,070 (EV 900)
Win. 209 MDL542 1224 (EV 30) 10,200 (EV 1700)
Cheddite 209 1217 (EV 20) 9,270 (EV 2000)

[10ga Hammer]

I've found Clays to be one of the cleanest burning for low pressure loads. Here's two of my favorites.

Federal paper hull
Win. 209 primer
1 oz magnum shot
windjammer wad
18 gr clays powder
5800 psi, 1180 fps

Rem gun club or STS hull
Win 209 primer
1 oz magnum shot
Rem TGT12 wad
16.3 Clays powder
6500 psi, 1125 fps

[Double Lab]

I agree Robert. Clays is extremely clean and soft shooting. 16.7gr. pushing a WWSL pink [1oz] wad, WW209, 7/8oz. in either a AA, STS or Gun club or Cheddite. Shoot it all day and you'll never shoot anything else.

[charlie cleveland]

i agree too clays is a very clean burn and soft on gun and shoulder...i load the ten ga some time with clays and 1 ounce shot 6 point crimp....this load fires good in cold wather good too.... charlie

[john pulis]

I want to thank you all for the advice and recommednations.

[Paul Harm]

I like 700X - used it in the 1970's for trap, and now for all my target shooting. A year or two ago I used PB - very clean but one of the most expensive powders. I now load just under 7/8oz [ in 12ga ] with Cheddite primers [ same as Win. ] - Claybuster wads, 0178 or 4100 - and from 15 to 17grs of 700X. That's good for 5600 to 7200psi - FPS goes up a bit. Most of the guys load 7/8oz in my club except for a few die hards who think you need 1 1/8oz . Paul