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The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to John Bastiani For Your Post: |
11-25-2021, 04:50 PM | #4 | ||||||
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It looks so much better than the black gun (Benelli?) in the rack.
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11-25-2021, 06:05 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Just some additional info. John, I've used and collected Model 12's for a long time now and understand this is a rare one especially with 32-inch tube and original buttplate. Yes the stock and metal finishes are original and there are a few spots of typical "flaking" in the bluing that can be seen in the pics. It is stamped TOUR under the buttplate. Operation is nice and crisp with no wear to the locking recess in the receiver and the bolt lifts fully into lock position. I doubt it was fired all that much and so far I've run 400 rounds with zero failures to feed, fire or eject. This Tournament 1912 has the crispest trigger of any M12 I've owned including many Trap Grades ..... no doubt special attention by the Big Red W.
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The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Frank Srebro For Your Post: |
11-25-2021, 06:36 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Great gun. Nice to see such a clean Model 12. In the Winchester catalogs I have, the Tournament Grade (or Gun) is offered only in 12-gauge, and many of the catalog texts only mention a 30-inch barrel.
1916 -- 1916 Catalog.jpg 1920 -- 1920 Catalog pg 114.jpg 1920 Catalog pg 115.jpg 1925 -- The text here does mention optional barrel lengths for the Tournament Grade -- 1925 Catalog pg 42.jpg 1925 Catalog pg 43.jpg By the July 1931 Winchester catalog the Tournament Grade (or Gun) is gone, replaced by the Standard Trap Grade, and the old Trap Grade became the Special Trap Grade. |
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The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Dave Noreen For Your Post: |
11-25-2021, 06:56 PM | #7 | ||||||
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Thanks Dave. Dave Riffle in his book (page 17) shows the Tournament Grade standard barrel at 30" and that 26, 28 and 32's were also available. Apparently 32" could be special-ordered earlier than shown in the 1925 catalog cut. My gun is November 1917. Riffle also stated that Tournament stocks were selected from the highest amount of walnut figure available and were hand-checkered and oil finished. I was and am very happy to have found this Model 1912. A natural pointer and she shoots very well.
Trap gun on a sporting clays course? I call then "professors". Hit or miss, very few chippers, and if you miss you'd better figure out why. |
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The Following User Says Thank You to Frank Srebro For Your Post: |
11-25-2021, 08:32 PM | #8 | ||||||
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Wow Frank. You are killing me.... straight stock, solid rib and 32".
I know now where a diamond grade M12 , 16ga. straight grip is for sale locally. No rib and in fair condition. Yours takes the cake. Bravo my friend.
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11-25-2021, 09:21 PM | #9 | ||||||
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I picked up a Model 12 16 with a 30” plain full choke barrel a few months ago . But my dexterity with a pump ain’t what it once was .
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11-26-2021, 12:34 PM | #10 | ||||||
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Looking at the photos and literature I think I may have a Tournament grade also.It has a 30in.barrel with full choke made in 1925. It is in nowhere near the condition of Frank's gun.The stock was cut to 12 3/8 in. so I added an aluminum and plastic spacer and new pad to extend the length to 14 3/8,but bluing looks original but well worn.Would post a picture but not sure how to go about it.
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