10ga loads ?

[Paul Harm]

I'm useing SB loads - 18grs of 700X, Rem wad, and 1oz of shot. They have an allful lot of recoil. My Parker 10 isn't that light, I"d say 8 pounds or so. It wants to come out of my left hand and the shoulder after 50 shots feels it. Any suggestion ? I checked 3 different shells - all the same, and in spects. Paul

[charlie cleveland]

paul are you roll crimping or useing 6 or 8 point crimping....the powder charge and shot you are using should be light on the shoulder...powder may have changed strenth qualitys from some reason...if you are roll crimping i cant think of any thing other than the change of strentg of powder... charlie

[J.B. Books]

A 1 ounce load in an 8 pound gun should be soft in recoil and not recoiling out of one's left hand. Something would seem to be "wrong". All I can think of is wrong powder type, too much of a powder charge or more than 1 ounce of shot. You say everything is in spec. Triple check amount of shot thrown, the amount of powder thrown, and powder type in machine. Then try a different lot of 700-X. If all else fails try a different powder, not in any book anywhere but 22 grains of Green Dot has been working fine for me with 1 1/8 ounce.

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Hi Paul,

A very sharp (short in length) forcing cone and/or short chambers could cause higher "felt" recoil.

Mark

[Paul Harm]

I'm going to recheck the chamber length - thougth mine were 2 5/8. I've cut all shells for that. I'll check bore dia. also. My chambers have a step - no forcing cone. I tried a shell with fiber wads last night - that was ok. Also one with 28grs of 800X - not bad but barrels were really dirty - incomplete burn. It seems to have something to do with the plastic wads. You think the old girl knows plastic wasn't invented yet and shouldn't be shot through her barrels ? Paul

[J.B. Books]

I still think there is something odd about this. A 1 ounce load using 18gr of 700-X is generating 1096fps and 5600 psi according to SB's loading data. That is a very tame load creating a mere 12ft lbs of recoil in an 8 pound gun.

[charlie cleveland]

yep some things not been seen in the light here...but im sure you will figure it out paul...pete about covvered all the bases... charlie

[Paul Harm]

Not quite all the basics. Bear with me. A 12ga bore should be .729 - many of our old SxS's are bigger - up to .740 or so. Going with the .729 - my 12ga plastic wads measure .702. With a full choke at .030, that means a couple of thous smaller than the wad. My 10 measures .750 at the muzzle. The Remington 10ga wads measure .760 - except at the part were the fingers and the cushion meet. For some reason just above the cushion it measures .780 to .790. None of my 12ga wads get bigger. I tried to push a wad down the barrel and it was very tight at the choke area. That's what got me measuring the wad a bit more closely. So then I put my trigger gauge on the ramrod. It took 4 to 6 pounds of pressure to push the wad down the barrel. At the choke area the gauge bottomed out at 16 pounds. Don't know what total it took to push it through. I would think with a load of shot in the wad it would be at least the 780 to 790 or more. I believe the heavy recoil is because the wad is too tight. Shooting paper wads and the recoil is mild. Even shooting 84 grs of BP and 1 1/8 oz loads with paper wads are better. It should be more than my 700X loads because recoil is based on the weight of powder, wad, and shot. Oh, it's a 9# gun, not 8. Does anyone else have recoil problem using Remington 10ga wads ? Paul

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

Paul,

Yes, but only in guns with sharp forcing cones.

Mark

[Paul Harm]

I didn't really want to go to the paper wads because it takes so many with nitro loads. I need over an inch of cushion wads with 1 1/8 oz loads - and that's in 2 5/8 " shells. Paul