PB for 16 gauge

[gman]

Any one had any success with reloading 2 1/2" 16 gauge using PB powder? If so any recipes to share?
Thanks

[Harold Pickens]

Eric, what kind of load are you looking for--3/4, 7/8, or 1 oz loads. I have several loads for 2 1/2" using PB mostly for 3/4 oz loads. I have a few lbs of PB myself and am going to use it in 2 1/2". It seems to be a good powder for lower pressure, moderate velocity 16 loads.
Let us know what you are looking for and I'll get it out to you.
Gosh, there is a fall chill in the air this morning--it wont be long my friends!

[Kensal Rise]

As long as we're on the topic of 16-bore loads, I might share this 3/4 oz load:

13 grs. of Red Dot, CCI 209 primer, a Fiochhi case.

Mild but strong enough, hits and shatters clays with No. 8, and pressures via primer visual are low to moderate.

Load was also tested in WW and Rem black cases and worked equally well.

Since ALL of my guns are now shooting 3/4 oz loads, this one consolidates my 12-bore and 16-bore powder requirements.

PS: 13.5 grs of Red Dot was a bit too stout. Not dangerous, but "gettin' warm."


(sorry about PB info. I quit using that stuff in the 1960s)

[Harold Pickens]

I have been using Red Dot for my 3/4 and 7/8 oz 12 ga loads, but am down to my last few ounces of RD. Havent seen any lately or I would try that . I use Green dot(14.5gr) for my 20 ga 3/4 oz loads.

[gman]

John
Are these loads 2 1/2 or 2 3/4? What wad do you use?
Thanks

[Kensal Rise]

Duh! Not enough coffee this morning! They're 2 3/4 but should work fine in 2 1/2 as well... maybe a bit better for crimp. Wad was Downrange plastic 7/8 oz "turquoise."

Hope this helps.

BTW... just bought 8 lbs of Red Dot at my local today. They had two more jugs... and about 20 1 lb bottles of it. Looks like things could get better soon.

[gman]

We saw some cases of red dot here a month ago. I just got the last of the PB shipment yesterday. All now gone. The guy at Powderhorn VT says he got forty .22 cases and sold in two weeks -usually lasts four months.
Thanks gor the recipes

[gman]

Thanks Harold
I had thought I replied but must have messed up on the ipad.
I load pretty much 7/8 and some one ounce in 16, 2 1/2". I am looking at the 3/4" though and am encouraged to do so by some by folks at my club. I have the red cheddite and the purple RST HULL (Cheddite) So if you have recipes that you would share I would be very appreciative.
Cool in Vermont also. Two weeks to goose opener and setting up the duck blinds. October 2nd for duck season. Hooked the garden hose up to the duck boat today and all is ready.
Eric

[Harold Pickens]

Cheddite 2 1/2:
3/4 oz / PB 16.1 gr/ DR16/ ched209/ 1100 @5,400psi
3/4oz/ PB 16.9 gr/ DR16/ ched209/ 1150@6,100 psi
3/4 oz/ PB 17.7 gr/ DR16/ched 209/ 1200@6,600 psi
7/8 oz/ PB 17 gr/SG 16/ Fed209A/ 1100@6560psi (win209 1086@ 6166psi
7/8 oz/ PB 21gr/SG16/ched 209/ 1250@8000 psi

I have been mostly loading 7/8 oz in 16 ga, but have loaded up some 3/4 and really cann0t tell the difference--just have to get my head comfortable with it. I have been using PB, 7625, International, and universal in the 2 1/2" hulls--whatever I can get my hands on.
2o/28 is great in those black RGL's.

[Mark Garrett]

gman

I had these loads tested , http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16251 They are both nice mild Low pressure loads . They patterm well in my guns and are clean shooting . I like the one with the Fed 209a primer a little better .

The 3/4 oz loads Harold posted are nice loads . I have used them quite a bit for target practice , and can't tell any difference in my scores between them and the 7/8oz loads. and they save some on expensive lead.

There is a nice PB 1oz LP load on the Hodgdon site in the Fed hull using CCI and Win 209 primers . I cut the hull down to 2 9/16 and it fits fine . It makes a nice heavy low pressure hunting load for my Damascus guns.

The Red dot load post early is more than likely not low pressure if that is what you are looking for . Shotshells don,t show signs of pressure like metallic cartridges do .

Hope this helps .