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1925 Winchester M!2 Tournament Grade
Unread 08-11-2024, 09:19 PM   #1
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Not a vintage double but a 99 year old Model 12 Tournament Grade 12g pump gun, pretty much original except for the replacement buttstock with about 2-3/8” drop vs. its original high Trap comb. Nickel Steel, 32" barrel and solid rib. She made her sporting clays debut with 100 birds today and came in second in our group of 7 shooters against two Perazzis, three Beretta competition gas guns and a Browning o/u. If I do my part, that Full choke and 7/8 ounce of 7-1/2's will do anything on the course.
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The Tournament Grade from the 1925 Winchester catalog --

1925 Catalog pg 42 Tournament Grade.jpg
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Thank you Dave for posting that catalog cut. Dave Riffle in his Model 12 book states that the Tournament Grade was also available with 26", 28" and 32" barrels on request and at no additional charge.

Love her early/small Trap style forend and that looooong sighting plane: 32” + almost 4” over the top of the receiver = about 36”.
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Frank, Great looking wood on your gun. They shoot great with those long barrels, here's my Tournament 32" solid rib
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Who did the stock work Mr. Frank?
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Sorry William, I don’t know. The buttstock already on the Winny when I bought her.
Incidentally the stock does have a WRA grip cap although its wrist checkering doesn’t match the later factory A or B patterns shown in Riffle’s book.
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That's a beauty, Frank. I would love to shoot one like it. Thanks for posting the pics and, GOOD SHOOTING!
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Not a vintage double but a 99 year old Model 12 Tournament Grade 12g pump gun, pretty much original except for the replacement buttstock with about 2-3/8” drop vs. its original high Trap comb. Nickel Steel, 32" barrel and solid rib. She made her sporting clays debut with 100 birds today and came in second in our group of 7 shooters against two Perazzis, three Beretta competition gas guns and a Browning o/u. If I do my part, that Full choke and 7/8 ounce of 7-1/2's will do anything on the course.
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Hello Frank, my 16ga. 32in. barrel Riverside single shot , will do anything on the course if I do my part. And I do pretty well with it.
This gun was my Dad's gun, He said it costed $5 when He was around 16 years old.

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Hello Frank, my 16ga. 32in. barrel Riverside single shot , will do anything on the course if I do my part. And I do pretty well with it.
This gun was my Dad's gun, He said it costed $5 when He was around 16 years old.

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I'd sure like to see you kill true pairs with it. Actually, even a report pair would be a challenge, with a single shot without an ejector.
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I'd sure like to see you kill true pairs with it. Actually, even a report pair would be a challenge, with a single shot without an ejector.
My has a auto ejector, but I don't follow ''The Rules''. One shot, one bird
at a time. Just like Hunting.

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P.S. I started shooting shotguns at age 6, the same 16ga. Riverside. My Dad only believed in single shot guns.
All others were ''Evil''. I learned wing shooting on our Pigeon flocks. By 10 years old I was quite deadly on them. One shot, one dead pigeon.
At 14 I bought a 12ga. Win. double. That first season I shot 23 Roosters straight with the right barrel, before I needed the left barrel one time.
At 15 I bought my first Win. M-12 (new) and still have it. I used it all most like a single, one shot fired, one dead bird. I had to hide that gun for about
6 months, so my Dad wouldn't be to mad when He saw it.


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