Model 11 Remington Collection

[B. Dudley]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

I don't have any engraved Model 11s, but I do have a minty 20 gauge Skeet with beavertail forend and vent rib and a round top conversion 20 gauge that I believe was done at Abercrombie and Fitch. It is one of only two round top conversions I have ever seen. I would like to learn more about them.

Is that when they stock them to bring the wood up over the back of the action?

[Bill Murphy]

That's the one, Brian. I have not had any luck finding an old ad for them. Because of the quality of the ones I have seen, I suspect Abercrombie and Fitch. I saw one in a retail store engraved by Arnold Griebel in full coverage, but it had a cracked frame. In today's world of good gunsmiths, I probably would have made an offer for it. Both of the ones I have seen have a crack in the wood at the receiver. One of these days I'll fix the crack on my 20 gauge, but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

[Will Gurton]

Bill I thought I pointed you to this previously, maybe I'm slipping, sorry.

Will

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/lot-514944.aspx

[Researcher]

The text says done in the 1920s, but serial number 440349 is a receiver put in work during February 1941. Circa 1937 Remington moved the "Model 11" or "The Sportsman" stamping from the left side of the receiver to the bolt. G & H did a serious modification of the trigger group moving the trigger way rearward.

[6pt-Sika]

To each his own and all that and I understand the uniquiness of the gun . But to be honest I like the profile of a "normal" Model 11 more .

[Bill Murphy]

Thanks, Brian. No, I don't remember that one but it is quite a custom. Mine also has the trigger relocated as Dave mentions.

[Phil Yearout]

Originally Posted by Phil Yearout

I was at my little local shop today and they had a 16ga Sportsman there on consignment. Cursory look seemed like real good condition; tag said $900. Don't know anything about the guns so don't know if that's a good or bad price. Not interested myself.

Was there yesterday and I was wrong; price was $500. Don't know anything about the gun; can provide shop info if anyone is interested.

[6pt-Sika]

I recieved a photo copy of the entire Remington Society article on the Model 11 authored by Tipton . Quite helpful to say the least .

[Researcher]

Don't put any faith in that serial number chronology at the end. It was done before the old "between the wars" factory ledger was discovered. Among other issues, it doesn't take into account that in 1937/8 the separate serial number sequences for the three gauges of The Sportsman was dropped and from then on The Sportsman were serial numbered right along in the three Model 11 gauge sequences.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

Don't put any faith in that serial number chronology at the end. It was done before the old "between the wars" factory ledger was discovered. Among other issues, it doesn't take into account that in 1937/8 the separate serial number sequences for the three gauges of The Sportsman was dropped and from then on The Sportsman were serial numbered right along in the three Model 11 gauge sequences.

I already noticed several discrepancies in the serial numbers as far as the Sportsman are concerned . But it’s a hell of a lot better than the Remington BS way of barrel dating .