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Unread 10-28-2022, 01:08 PM   #1
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Iím looking at a 16 gauge Ithaca Flues made in 1916 and refinished at some point in its life. Barrels are steel and 28Ē long. Chokes are IM and Mod. BTFE, PG stock. Iíve included the pics I have of the gun. I would like to get a ballpark value based on the info I have. Thank you!
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If I'm not mistaken thats a Grade 1 1/2 I think . If I'm incorrect I'm sure Stan knows for certain .
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Value?
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Mike,
I'll take the first WAG

These are things that may not enter your decision, but I thought I would point them out.

Action is blued, would have been case hardened,
It has an after market vent rib, I believe a Simmons,
Buttstock is not original in my opinion
BTFE is definitely a replacement

Value, it may be a $600-800 gun but I would call that generous.
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My 28" original 12ga damascus 1-1/2 Flues has a bit more engraving than this one - Is there such a thing as a #1 Flues?? - I think there is.... The wood on this one certainly does not look original, but sure is nice! My Flues fits me perfectly and is a nice light little gun.
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My uncle got my Flues for $35(!) at his favorite bar and gave it to me when I was 16. They look much nicer with a case hardened receiver for sure.
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If I'm not mistaken thats a Grade 1 1/2 I think . If I'm incorrect I'm sure Stan knows for certain .
I'm fairly certain that is a Grade 1, I would have to take look in the catalogs or Walt's book to confirm.

It would be definitely stamped on the water table if one wanted to know for sure!
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Any time I see a blued frame, it sets off alarms that the barrels may have been hot blued.

In the early days there was a herd of entry-level Ithaca doubles, all with the company logo and dog roll-stamped on the sides of the frame and a capped pistol grip -- No. 1 had Twist barrels, the No. 1 Special had Cockerill Steel barrels and the No. 1 1/2 had Damascus barrels. Then they added an even lower priced Field Grade with smokeless powder steel barrels and a half-pistol grip stock. During 1915 as Ithaca went from their early style fine engraving to the bold (cheaper to produced) McGraw style engraving the No. 1 1/2 got the bold floral engraving and the option of Krupp Steel barrels.

Ithaca Flues No. 1 and one half, July 1915.jpg

Over the next five years, as the war in Europe cut off the supply of composite iron and steel tubes, every Ithaca Gun Co. catalog shows differences in these entry-level doubles. Once the No. 1 got steel barrels the No. 1 Special was redundant and was dropped. June 5, 1918, catalog --

No. 1, June 5, 1918, Pocket Catalog.jpeg

No. 1 1-2, June 5, 1918, Pocket Catalog.jpeg

Then by 1919 the No. 1 and No. 1 1/2 were combined as the new No. 1 --

No. 1, 1919-1920 Pocket Catalog.jpeg

with the bold floral engraving.
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You almost had me there, Mike. Happy Halloween to you, too.
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