Loading the Short Ten by Pete Lester

[Big Friend Ten (BFT)]

What you need to get into shooting and reloading the (2 7/8") short ten by PGCA member Pete Lester:

A good single stage press - MEC is the most economical.

A short kit for loading 2 7/8" shells.

A hull trimmer - easily made

A hull skivver - optional but handy.

A roll crimper - Ballistic products sells one that goes into a electric drill.

A hull vise - To hold shells while applying a roll crimp

10ga hulls - harder to find and pricier than 12ga

10ga wads - Remington SP10 or BP Decimax/VP100

Filler wads - Fiber is good and economical, 16ga fits nicely in SP10 wad, 1/2" fiber wads are easily split with finger nail if shorter is needed.

Overshot cards - If using a roll crimp.

Recipe's - See Pete Lester's spreadsheet (posted on 5/3/12 at this link) http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...rt+spreadsheet

The process of loading the 2 7/8" 10ga is the same as loading any other gauge with the addition of hull trimming and use of a filler wad. It's a pretty simple process.

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[Paul Harm]

Let's not forget a very important item, the scale. Powder charges need to be verified. BP's or Precision Reloading both sell the new digital scales rather cheap.

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by Paul Harm

Let's not forget a very important item, the scale. Powder charges need to be verified. BP's or Precision Reloading both sell the new digital scales rather cheap.

great advise. i found most of my MEC bushings significantly off for SR7625 according to the chart.

[jim garrett]

When I started loading for the short 10 I used a roll crimp. I have since switched to a 6 point fold crimp and I am able to get many more loads per hull, and as we know, 10 gauge Federal or Remington hulls are expensive.

[OH Osthaus]

since Remington hulls are in such short supply, and Federal are harder to find than Sasquatch - has anyone tried the Cheddite 10 gauge hulls-
of course new low pressure 2 7/8 loads would need to be worked up for them

[jim garrett]

I am not familiar with the 10 ga Cheddite hull. Maybe Ballistic Products has a supply of them. They are my source for Federal and Remington.

[wayne goerres]

Cheddit 10 ga hulls from Bp are 30.99 per 100.

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by wayne goerres

Cheddit 10 ga hulls from Bp are 30.99 per 100.

yes they are - that is why I asked if any one had experience with them.

the question remains

[J.B. Books]

Attached is an update to my Short Ten reloading spreadsheet. It has been a long time since I have come across any new to me data. Last night I found a copy of the First Edition of the Lyman Shotshell Handbook from 1969. I have added 11 new published loads from that book. All of them use discontinued/obsolete hulls. What I found interesting was this is the first time I have found recipes calling for "2 3/4" 10ga hulls. The old recipes also show us again that SR7625 and PB can be good choices for 1 1/4 ounce 10ga loads.

The newest loads are the last ones on page 3 of the spreadsheet.

[David Lien]

Pete
Today i set out 20 Remington cases to load the three HS 6 loads with the BPD wad that is in your spread sheet. I Have a cheap Crony for the velocity stats. I have new paper for the pattern board. BPD wads can yield some very good patterns.

I do enjoy your work and enthusiasm with the short ten shotgun, and the loading and shooting of the guns. I have shot these guns for a few years, and I still like to try new loads. I have shot a lot of HS 6 In Alcan brass cases, but mostly heavy loads ((3 and 1/2 IN guns))… I would like to find some data for Win 571 or HS 7 ((ball Powders)) for the short ten.

I have a Charles Daly Linder (( Krupp Barrels)) that the chambers are exactly 2 and 3/4 In. long I cut the shells to fit the chamber length. I roll crimp and load like 2 and 7/8 In. shells. I also shoot gauge mates with 12 Ga. shells. I think maybe it is a uncommon chamber size??? Thanks again for your effort, and information…
David