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07-19-2020, 08:32 PM | #3 | |||||||
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Ive had the idea of picking up a small bore PH to go with my NH 10 ga and they look almost identical besides the frame size of course . A slightly different question , ive seen a few Parkers listed as PT grade which ive read is not a grade but means plain twist barrels . Which I assume could be either a grade 1 or 0 ? |
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07-19-2020, 10:03 PM | #4 | ||||||
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From the introduction of the Grade 1 hammerless guns in 1890 into the early 1900s the 12-gauge and smaller gauges were Quality PH with a list price of $65 and the 10-gauge was Quality NH with a list price of $70.
Here are the pages form the "Blue Ink" catalog (circa 1900) which the late Ed Muderlak had reproduced. PH- and NH-Grades.jpg By the catalog that introduces ejectors (circa 1901) it is just the Quality PH with a list price of $65 in all gauges but 8-gauge which is $105. I've never seen an 8-gauge Grade 1 hammerless with the watertable marked NH. |
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07-19-2020, 10:25 PM | #5 | |||||||
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There was also 108101 that was listed as a NH 8 gauge and 117160 . |
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07-19-2020, 11:04 PM | #6 | ||||||
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The Quality NH disappears from the catalogs between 1900 and 1901. From the serial numbers you show, the boys and girls on the factory floor were still stamping Ns on watertables into at least 1904.
108101 and 117160 are listed as a T2 in The Parked Story, page 1003. 128636 isn't on the listing, nor is 157318 Quality PH that I pictured in my earlier 6-frame thread. |
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07-19-2020, 11:19 PM | #7 | |||||||
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One seller said there was 29 NH 8 gauges built another claimed only 8 . Heres one that appears to have the frame blued and someone jewelled the watertable . https://www.gunsamerica.com/90798784...S-Grade-NH.htm Heres the other with 40" barrels https://www.icollector.com/Extremely...th-4_i12221577 and https://www.icollector.com/Very-Rare...otgun_i9966791 If 128636 isnt recorded wouldnt that mean its a 40" barreled gun thats not listed with the known 40" 8 gauges ? I was confused at first because I seen a PH 10 ga that was made in 1902 but it was a few thousand serial #s before my NH ordered at the end of 1902 . So I guess a way to look at it the 1902-1904 NH guns were when Parkers was transitioning to only PH grade 1s ? |
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07-20-2020, 06:51 AM | #8 | ||||||
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I would have thought a T2 would indicate a Grade 2 with Twist Steel barrels.....?
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07-20-2020, 07:34 AM | #9 | ||||||
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the PH 10 I sold a while ago here lettered as an NH -
serial number 144964 ordered and shipped in late 1907 barrels were twist PS; water table and letter
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07-20-2020, 09:48 AM | #10 | ||||||
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Who reproduced the "Clown" catalog that Dan Cote is now offering?
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