Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums Parker Restoration

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Almost Done
Unread 04-16-2022, 11:21 PM   #1
Member
ArtS
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 930
Thanks: 84
Thanked 1,323 Times in 490 Posts

Default Almost Done

Well, the 1880 Lifter 10 Gauge I have been working on since November is nearing completion. The first pictures I show are the gun as purchased.Metal was good, the barrels were better than I hoped inside and the mechanicals were good. The downside is that sometime in the far past, the gun had been dropped hard or something hit on top of it. The trigger guard was bent with the threaded connector replaced with a screw, the trigger had three breaks and was bent some, and the original stock was completely missing, having been replaced with a low grade Parker stock that didn't fit, was beat up badly and had multiple cracks in the headstock. The interior of the head was oil soaked and punky, and the original skeleton butplate had been ground to ruin and cobbled onto the "new" stock. The reason I bought it was that it was a Grade 3 Lifter and had Parker Laminated steel barrels, even though marked on the water table as a D.

The second pictures show the gun as it sits now.

I welded and repaired the trigger plate, reamed the 9 gauge size barrels by about 0.005 inches to remove the minor pits and flaws and made a new buttstock. The barrels were sent to Breck Gorman to have a few small dents removed and then refinished. I finally got it all back together today.
I still need a few things. I haven't had time to repair and finish the trigger guard. I found a used (badly used) hammerless gun trigger gaurdon eBay that is the exact same profile as my original. I filed, polished and blued it for the time being. When I get the original serial numbered and engraved guard finished, I will replace it and touch up the inletting and finish. I haven't found a replacement buttplate yet, so I left the stock long enough to install a skeleton butt and put a 1/2 inch rubber pad in it's place. I also need to move the stock shield from the bummer stock to the new one.

I am going to hold off on the checkering until I make a decision on the forend. The one on the gun right now is the 1880 original, but I have a roughed out new one that matches the buttstock exactly. I will probably fit the new one to see what it looks like before making a final decision. I don't want to have two forends to checker. At the end, I plan to wet sand the finish with 1000 to 2000 grit cloth and rub in a final few coats of Timberluxe. The finish right now is three coats of Watkins Danish oil as a sealer, 6 coats of Truoil of an old bottle I keep because it has thickened and then 6 topcoats of Timberluxe fast drying.

All in all I am pleased. The gun, being a 3 grade lifter with Parker barrels is a desireable gun, but without the original buttstock, it's future is more as a shooter than a collector. I didn't think the cost of a professional replacement would ever be justified financially, so I decided to go with a lower priced stock with modern shooting dimensions. With this work, I think my investment will be easily recoverable and I will get a lot of enjoyment from it.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 10-1.jpg (102.2 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg 10-4.jpg (170.4 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg 10-5.jpg (72.5 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg 10-13.jpg (147.8 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg 10-21.jpg (132.0 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg 10-22.jpg (92.6 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg 2022-04-16 14.06.00-1.jpg (447.4 KB, 36 views)
File Type: jpg 2022-04-16 14.07.27.jpg (375.3 KB, 22 views)
File Type: jpg 2022-04-16 14.08.16.jpg (408.2 KB, 21 views)
File Type: jpg 2022-04-16 14.11.22.jpg (518.2 KB, 33 views)
File Type: jpg 2022-04-16 14.11.51.jpg (499.2 KB, 26 views)
File Type: jpg 2022-04-16 14.12.00.jpg (531.5 KB, 21 views)
File Type: jpg 1079998.jpg (376.6 KB, 16 views)
Arthur Shaffer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-17-2022, 07:49 AM   #2
Member
Harold Pickens
PGCA Member
 
Harold Lee Pickens's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,764
Thanks: 2,224
Thanked 8,278 Times in 2,110 Posts

Default

Nice save Art, and great that you can do a lot of the work yourself. I t will be satisfying to get it out into the field once more.
__________________
"How kind it is that most of us will never know when we have fired our last shot"--Nash Buckingham
Harold Lee Pickens is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-17-2022, 12:37 PM   #3
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,046
Thanks: 36,719
Thanked 34,158 Times in 12,637 Posts

Default

I love those Parker-made Laminated tubes!





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-17-2022, 08:54 PM   #4
Member
charlie cleveland
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 12,986
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7,803 Times in 3,968 Posts

Default

those are snazzing looking barrels....I like the engraving very well on this gun...thanks for saving this old parker....charlie
charlie cleveland is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to charlie cleveland For Your Post:
Unread 04-18-2022, 10:57 AM   #5
Member
Keavin Nelson
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
keavin nelson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 950
Thanks: 6,064
Thanked 1,351 Times in 481 Posts

Default

Another great save, and the Parker hammer guns are great to shoot. The barrels look great!
__________________
Keavin Nelson
keavin nelson is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to keavin nelson For Your Post:
Unread 04-18-2022, 12:19 PM   #6
Member
ArtS
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2021
Posts: 930
Thanks: 84
Thanked 1,323 Times in 490 Posts

Default

Just a note for anyone interested. Not too long ago I was really active for a few years in a .22 benchrest association. I did pretty well, winning three different National Championships in four years, in different categories. I did all my rifle building, and experimented with varying lightweight stock designs. I experimented with carbon fiber as a reinforcement, and ended up builing an unlimited style bench stock that weighed less than 1-1/2 pounds total. This compares to a typical 5-7 pounds. I made it from laminations of aircraft grade balsa wood, paulonia (used for wooden surfboards), and carbon fiber. The stiffness was unreal.

I have worked on two or three lifter parkers recently, and all of them suffered from headstock failures of one kind or another; from cracks, internal cracks to complete breaks.

This is where purists should maybe step away.

OK. SInce this is not an original and not supposed to particularly copy one, I decided to see what I could do to strengthen it. Before starting the actual inletting after roughing it in, I trued the head as perfectly square and flat as I could, then laid on a layer of biaxial carbon fiber tape across the face of the head, set in saturation epoxy, and clamped it to the action to fit it. Later, after getting the inletting close, I basically removed the internal cuts in the lock areas barely deeper than the depth of the lockworks, leaving the outer perimeter areas untouched. I then made a teflon plug slightly smaller than the locks and laid in two layers of the same biaxial tape on all the inside surfaces of the locks recesses. I clamped in the teflon plug until it dried. I cut a rim to support the locks against the carbon fiber layer at the proper depth, and after cutting the recess for the locking bolt, I reinforced the inside of it with a layer of oriented fibers set in epoxy.

The point of this was to build a completely reinforced composite headstock structure which would be strong and not crack under recoil. Call this experimental gunsmithing, but I wanted to try it out. It could turn out to be a good tool to solidly repair a cracked stock. Yesterday, I made up some moderately stiff loads and tried the new stock with no untoward results.

When I break down the gun for checkering, I will take a couple of pictures and post them.
Arthur Shaffer is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Arthur Shaffer For Your Post:
Unread 04-18-2022, 12:51 PM   #7
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,949
Thanks: 6,387
Thanked 9,262 Times in 4,936 Posts

Default

Just run that past me one more time and I think I have it.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-19-2022, 02:28 PM   #8
Member
charlie cleveland
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 12,986
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7,803 Times in 3,968 Posts

Default

hope the stock holds up about all I shoot are heavy and magnum loads....I busted a stevens stock one time by doing the old string and being around the corner thing..put the stock against a pine log when I pulled the trigger it latterly broke the stock in several pieaces..busted and broke the cheek panals plum off the gun.brokre the wrist half into...lots of damage to the stock...the round I shot was a 3 1/2 inch magnum I had rechambered it to the 3 1/2 inch shell...I picked up all of the pieaces of the stock I could find...several days later I decided I would try to fix the stock instead of getting a used one... I got some gorillia glue some long wood screws glued and glass beaded that stock...put the stock back on the gun and done the string test again only this time the gun wasfree floating nothing behind the stock...I put a box of 3 1/2 inch shells thru the gun thus proofing the barrels and the stock...that was 15 years ago the gun has been on lots of duck hunt and turkey hunts its my wet weather gun...its held together mighty well I m sure your stock will hold up under heavy loads as mine has...in fact I ve got to pretty up the stock some day you can still see all the glue and screws that hold this old stevens together...ever time I see them screws I think about the day I tied her to the pine log....charlie
charlie cleveland is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to charlie cleveland For Your Post:
Unread 07-31-2022, 10:01 PM   #9
Member
Mike Franzen
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Mike Franzen's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 2,934
Thanks: 1,323
Thanked 4,560 Times in 1,371 Posts

Default

Art that is a great looking gun. You are very skilled.
Mike Franzen is offline   Reply With Quote
Visit Mike Franzen's homepage!
Unread 08-03-2022, 12:39 AM   #10
Member
Keith Doty
PGCA Member
 
Keith Doty's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 587
Thanks: 595
Thanked 761 Times in 304 Posts

Default

Very nice! Another brought back to it's former glory! My congrats.
Keith Doty is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:50 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.