Non Factory Case Colors on Repro

[classicioi]

So what would you suggest Jay after 4 years of broken promises ? ?

Maybe you could offer to help Matt since you have no problems with them...

[Victor Wasylyna]

Originally Posted by Jay Gardner

Filing a false police report? Brilliant. Maybe you should stay in your lane. Seriously, what a stupid suggestion.

That’s a bit harsh.

If a person legally takes possession of my Parker (I sent it to them for repair), but then refuses to return my Parker, even after several years of demands (in writing), I would say such person committed “theft by conversion.” You Michiganders might use the old school “larceny by conversion.” Whatever you call it, it’s a theft and it’s appropriate to report such a theft to the ATF.

-Victor

[B. Dudley]

Since Jay in in MI maybe he can can check things out for Matt. ?

[Setter Man]

Originally Posted by Matt Buckley

Victor,
Don't even think about Bachelder. They have had a 20 gauge repro of mine for 4 years for case coloring and I can't get them to send me my gun back. I call and demand they ship it back every couple weeks and they say I will have it in two weeks and no gun. My advice would be to avoid them like the plague.

Matt;

Unless I missed it, I don’t see where you have made a demand for the return of your gun, in writing. If not I suggest that you do so, including the date they received the gun, the serial number, the work to be done and document as best you can the number of times you called and who you have spoken to. Ask the gun be returned to you, at their expense, within 30-days of receipt of the letter, and tell them if the run has not been received within 30-days you will contact the Grand Rapids Police Department. Express your disappointment and your frustration, but be professional, keeping it short and confined to the facts. Send the letter registered mail, return receipt requested.

I suggest you send the letter to Lori Bachelder’s attention (but confirm first that she is still working there). If she is not, send it to Parker Bachelder. Keep a photo copy of the letter.

That’s my advice.

JDG

[Setter Man]

Originally Posted by Victor Wasylyna

That’s a bit harsh.

If a person legally takes possession of my Parker (I sent it to them for repair), but then refuses to return my Parker, even after several years of demands (in writing), I would say such person committed “theft by conversion.” You Michiganders might use the old school “larceny by conversion.” Whatever you call it, it’s a theft and it’s appropriate to report such a theft to the ATF.

-Victor

I think Matt needs to make a formal demand, in writing, to the owner(s), Parker and/or Lori Bachelder. In terms of reporting it, larceny/conversion is a state offense, not a federal offense. The GR PD will investigate, and if the facts justify a possible criminal charge, they will refer the matter to the Kent Co Prosecutor, and request a warrant be issued.

I hope that upon receipt of the letter Lori or Parker will respond promptly and return the firearm.

JDG

[Dean Romig]

Send them a Registered Letter where their signature is required upon receipt of it. Keep your copy of the letter and keep the US Postal Service copy of that receipt when you receive it.
Demand the return of your gun within 30 days. This will begin your record-keeping process. Up to this point it has been nothing more than “he said - she said” and will not hold up in any court.
From that point on, any communication with them should be done by mail. Do not accept any telephone calls from them. Emails are ok because they can be printed or stored in a folder on your PC but NO phone calls because that goes back to “he said - she said”.




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[Victor Wasylyna]

I would say that Jay has just given Matt some great advice.

-Victor

[Victor Wasylyna]

And further to Jay’s great advice, whether or not you report to the ATF (in addition to local PD) depends on whether you have a federal firearms license, such as a C&R. If you have an FFL, you must report a theft. If you do not have an FFL, reporting to the ATF is not even an option.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/report-...-theft-or-loss

-Victor

[Bill Murphy]

The paragraph referring to the reporting of theft from non FFL holders goes off on a tangent and starts talking about assigning serial numbers. It was obviously written by a semi literate ATF employee who does not address the original question.

[Steiner]

I’m disheartened by the number and severity of the “rough edges” included in this thread. I humbly and respectfully ask that we just help this fellow get his gun back.