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Unread 01-13-2011, 05:12 PM   #1
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My post was not in any way meant to misdirect this thread, just a sorta feeble attempt at a humorous response to the "vette" analogy.
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Your response to the "vette" analogy was the Best part of this thread...

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...Your response to the "vette" analogy was the best part of this thread......
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Here's my 2 cents worth More people are getting into not only Parkers but vintage doubles as a whole. Most of these folks I would imagine are used to shooting a more modern gun and with the accessability of the internet find themselves here on our forum. Obviously the question is asked "what is approiate to shoot in Grampas Parker"? We know the different schools of thought regarding the anser. My problem with the ansers is that they are given freely with no knowledge of the condition of the gun, it might be a wall hanger and an RST low pressure shell blows it up. IMHO the only anser is "I/we can't advise you on that as the condition of your gun isn't known". "You need to have it inspected by a competant gunsmith with knowledge about this type of firearm". In todays society where the victim get sued for being a victim we are opening ourselves up to liability.

I'm more of a Grouse hunter and a low pressure shell works fine. I can freely use them between fluid steel and damascuss barreled guns without worry. Some day I would love to hunt Pheasant, Huns ect on the Great Plains. If that would occur I'd match the gun to the game,I bought a DHE 12 just in case. I would no more shoot 1 1/8 oz out of an 0 frame 16 than I'd hunt an Elk with a 270. Can it be done sure but to me late season Pheasants are a 12ga bird with suitable shot in #4,5,6 and I prefer my 338 for the Elk
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Possibly, provided our goal is to educate the undeducated, either in an additional FAQ or added verbiage approriately in an existing FAQ, a definitive mention of the difference between low power and low pressure loads could be mentioned and described. Not being a student, or a reloader, I had no idea there was a difference until my interest went to the antique guns. Maybe this is too elementary but I can tell you for sure I would have thought they were one and the same.
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Here's my 2 cents worth More people are getting into not only Parkers but vintage doubles as a whole. Most of these folks I would imagine are used to shooting a more modern gun...
Your thinking and mine are much aligned... Here is my reply in a different thread:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showpos...8&postcount=11

It's in this thread:
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3266 - which was spawned from this thread...?

But - what do I know? I enjoy my Parkers without hurting them - or even hurting me. I'll always defer to folks who profess to know more than everyone else - or at least "me" - and post as much.

Is what it is, I guess?

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Austin, from what we've read and heard the "square load" and those of column length of .8 of the bore diameter produce the best patterns as well as less stress on the gun and the shooter's shoulder too. Thanks for the chart.
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Bruce, If your horse don't give you a good shot whos fault is it? If your shotgun don't kill the bird is it the shells fault? Was my only point. And if you believe everything manufactures tell you you got a house full of stuff you don't need! Fransis thanks you got my point! everybody got a nose The other day I was down to one shell so I thought I needed to pratice left barrel first shooting so a fez gets up and right barrel goes click and I flinched so bad my pup was laughing and ol BoJack wouldn't make eye contact because he was embarresed for me. I'm far from perfect and I know it. I have fun hunting, birds or no birds and if we lose one one of my companions on the great plains will eat him they need an easy one once and a while. we don't have a preadetor problem out here plenty for everybody. and Eric I will bow out as well. best ch and somebody tells me they can tell the diff between 5 and 6 shot I'll wonder wonder wonder who, who wrote the........ and i thank you all because win I need something i can ask on of you guys what to do and i don't have to have to try to figure out thoes tables and mathmatical figures.
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Default You are welcome Calvin- as always

I sure do enjoy your posts and answers- they can brighten up a man's day like a home-made pie from Aunt Bea herself--and I'm glad you caught my drift on the "nose' business--we need to remember that when we invent excuses for missing an easy shot- usually it is a mechanical problem- a loose nut behind the stock group- so to speak--

And I wonder, wonder-wonder- let me guess here- the rest is "Who wrote the book of love" maybe? No big deal, I just love trivia and history quizzes is all.

The difference between No 5 shot and No 6 (lead shot) is one thousands of an inch bigger for the No. 5- old easy formulae (and not Pi R squared)-- take 17 and subtract the number of the shot size- if you are shooting No. 2 shot- your pellets are (in theory) 15 thousands of an inch in dia. We all know that shot when it leaves the muzzle and the shot cup falls away, not all fly true, not all stay round- ballistics for smoothbore weapons, is NOT an exact science- but folks like Tom Roster and others have sure worked hard to make it close to that--

As I mentioned the old Pi R Squ. theorm- here's a Jeff Foxworthy spin on that puppy--I kinda liked it-- Little Tommy comes home from grade school and at the dinner table, his Pappy asks him: "Well, Son, what did they learn you today in school?" "Math-e-matics, Pa" was the lad's reply--- Huum, says the father-"Math-E-matics, what sorta learnin' is that?" "Well, Pa, we learned that Pi R Square today!"-- "Horsefeathers, said the father, any danged fool knows that Pie are Round, it's johnny cake and cornbread are Square!"" Bon Appetit!!
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Bruce, If your horse don't give you a good shot whos fault is it? If your shotgun don't kill the bird is it the shells fault? Was my only point. And if you believe everything manufactures tell you you got a house full of stuff you don't need! Fransis thanks you got my point! everybody got a nose The other day I was down to one shell so I thought I needed to pratice left barrel first shooting so a fez gets up and right barrel goes click and I flinched so bad my pup was laughing and ol BoJack wouldn't make eye contact because he was embarresed for me. I'm far from perfect and I know it. I have fun hunting, birds or no birds and if we lose one one of my companions on the great plains will eat him they need an easy one once and a while. we don't have a preadetor problem out here plenty for everybody. and Eric I will bow out as well. best ch and somebody tells me they can tell the diff between 5 and 6 shot I'll wonder wonder wonder who, who wrot the........ and i think all of u because win i have a qustion i can ask you fellows and i don't have to try figure out thoes tables and mathmatical figures.
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