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Unread 05-10-2016, 09:49 PM   #71
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Todd: your barrels are Parker D3 3 Iron "Oxford" and the pattern is fairly symmetric. The problem appears to be in the 'take' of the coloring.
Drew, I just got it out and checked. The rib marking says "PARKER BROS MAKERS, MERIDEN CONN. TWIST "
Could it be mis-marked?
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You are most welcome Paul. It's been great fun, and we all stand on the shoulders of Dr. Gaddy and others who brought a renewed appreciation of the incredible artistry of Damascus barrels.

Todd: do the barrel flats have a 'T' or a 'D'?
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Drew, it has a "T". Let me know if you need any additional pictures. I appreciate your expertise.
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Todd Allen: if you are asking about the barrels in this thread
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11695
the pattern is indistinct but appears to be Laminated Steel

This is a late 1870s 16g Lifter labeled 'Twist' but is clearly laminated steel courtesy of Albert Zinn.

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I wonder if there is a good photo of the barrel flat stamps on the barrels shown just above?

Late 1870's ('77, '78, '79, to be exact) could be Parker Bros. own produced Laminated Steel barrels.





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Sorry to stray from the fold, but it's one of the nicest patterns I've encountered.
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Will, that pattern is amazing!

Toward the breech end the pattern looks similar to Bernard but forward of that it looks like it graduates to more of a Laminated pattern.





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Steve Culver would like images of the Terrell gun, or permission to use Bill's images
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D and 3 together, normally the numeral is above the letter, indicates 3-blade Damascus. Grade 2 flats were not marked with the grade number. That started with Grade 3.






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That's what I've always heard, too. Here are two G grades, one with D4 and one with D3. The "c" stamp I've always heard meant "crolle" but I certainly have no evidence to back that up. There isn't a lot of difference to my eye between the D3 and D4 patterns, except maybe the size of the swirls. I have seen some really large swirls on other makes that I do not particularly care for. D2's possibly?
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The difference between the crolle number is the number of "swirls between the band welds. If you count 3 swirls plus a half swirl on each side between the welds it is 4-iron





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