12 gauge Parker shotguns

[Bill Murphy]

John, so the twelves are slow selling. I don't care because mine are being put to good use. They will be a hard sell when I am ready to liquidate but sixty percent of real value will usually be more than I paid for them.

[MrBojangles]

If you want a Purdey, the overwhelming majority of production is in 12 gauge.

I created this thread because I thought folks are simply “softer” than they were in the past. I’m not one to ask about that as I shoot a .375 Holland & Holland for pleasure at the range. Not everyday, but from time to time.

[William Woods]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

This started out as a "why 12 gauge" thread. Getting back to that, let me comment. Where would be be without Parker pigeon guns, Parker duck guns, Parker single trap guns, Parker 12 gauge skeet guns, high condition Trojans, high condition VH and VHE guns, average condition G, D, C, B, A and higher Parkers? That's a large number of 12 gauge guns on the double gun market. Of course, that's just Parkers. What about the Foxes, Smiths, Purdeys and Bosses? I don't think the 12 gauge market is quite dead yet. Please comment.

Mr. Bill, I have 12 gauge guns, and mentioned earlier that I have a Parker 12 gauge that is being redone, reurbished, restored, ruined at this time. I was advised by several people, including Steve Fjestad (a picture of myself and Mr. Fjestad looking at the gun while at the NRA show in Louisville, KY appears in the memorial Blue Book, later published in the DGJ) that the gun was not worth the money it would take to restore it. Being only the second Parker D grade that I had ever seen for sale locally, I ignored those wiser than myself and have had it as a project ever since. I have purchased one or two other 12's since. I do not object to the 12's, and have no disdain for the gauge, I just find the 16's and 28's preferable to the 12's. I miss just as many with the 12's as I do with the smaller gauges, and the smaller gauges are easier to blame due to having less powder and shot.

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Ian Civco

Or any 12 gauge, for that matter. They have become really unpopular.

Why?

Is the recoil that punishing? (I don’t find it to be a problem.)

No 12 gauge is not "really unpopular", they are just not the shotgun fad today. People who shoot shotguns understand that the most effective gun is the 12 gauge. Other's are used for various reasons which includes what is the in thing at the time. If one shows up at the gun range with a 16 then he/she is cool. If he/she has a 12 then he/she is old hat.

[Tennessee Dave]

I currently have 14 shotguns that are 12 gauge made by various manufacturers including Parker, Marlin, Franchi, Mossburg, Stevens, Hatsan & Winchester. I have a couple of .410's, one 28 ga. couple of 20's and a couple of 16's, none of which are Parkers. I don't plan on buying any more 12's unless it's a really great deal, because I don't need any more.

[C.O.B.]

While I'm not a 12 gauge guy and never have been in the last two years I have bought several. A 12 gauge with a 7/8oz or 3/4oz payload is a pure pleasure to shoot.
As mentioned previously the UK has banned all lead shot which drives down the cost of a vintage Purdey, H&H, Boss etc. Two years ago at the Southern I picked up a matched pair of Purdey forward snap action guns for what one would have cost several years prior.
To the best of my recollection my shotgun adoptions over the last two years by gauge are 12's -6 (but in my defense there are two matched pairs), 16's-3 and 20's -2..
The only hunting I do with a 12 is some Quail hunting in Georgia and some Grouse hunting in MI with a Purdey light game gun and RST 2 inch shells. Essentially a 28ga load in a 12

[Victor Wasylyna]

Clearly there is much pessimism here about the future of side-by-side shotguns, bird hunting, and Parker collecting. I do not share that pessimism. From my perspective, the left and their culture wars have created a generation of men that are exploding with masculinity. Just Google the "Tate brothers." Many of those men will eventually find their way to us.

I recently read this article and thought the author was preaching to the choir: https://dailyreckoning.com/gen-z-nat...vs-communists/

-Victor

[Mike of the Mountain]

Victor, I'm with you!

[IW1978]

Originally Posted by Victor Wasylyna

Clearly there is much pessimism here about the future of side-by-side shotguns, bird hunting, and Parker collecting. I do not share that pessimism. From my perspective, the left and their culture wars have created a generation of men that are exploding with masculinity. Just Google the "Tate brothers." Many of those men will eventually find their way to us.

I recently read this article and thought the author was preaching to the choir: https://dailyreckoning.com/gen-z-nat...vs-communists/

-Victor

What do shotguns and Parker’s have to do with two brothers who have been accused of human trafficking and sexual assault of minors, to name just two of the serious allegations against them.

[Victor Wasylyna]

Ira:

Either you are being obtuse or you missed my point entirely.

I am not defending or promoting the Tate brothers. I am no fan of theirs whatsoever. I am just pointing out that there is an entire generation of young men (Gen-Zers) that are rediscovering masculinity after years of being emasculated. Millions of these Gen-Zers were searching for something masculine and ended up "following" the Tate brothers (before they were canceled based on various criminal allegations). My point was simply that it is only a matter of time before these Gen-Zers—eschewing the culture wars and desperately seeking masculinity—find their way to parkerguns.org.

-Victor