Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Non-Parker Specific & General Discussions Shotgun Shell Reloading

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
2/78 10 reloading
Unread 09-15-2015, 04:39 PM   #61
Member
John Muddiman
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

Default 2/78 10 reloading

i would like to SAY A BIG THANK YOU for the loads i have been trying everywhere to find some i have tried other forums with no luck . i would like to thank the administrator who sorted out my login in problems for me once again THANK YOU ALL for the help i received as in the UK we have hardly any data at all and have to rely on you chaps over in the US for help cheers
John Muddiman is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to John Muddiman For Your Post:
Unread 09-15-2015, 05:27 PM   #62
Member
OH Osthaus
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Rick Losey's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,882
Thanks: 1,719
Thanked 8,377 Times in 3,309 Posts

Default

You are of course welcome

A grand thanks would be some photos of your days on the foreshore and the grey lags or pinkfeet geese taken with your new found knowledge.

Good shooting to you
__________________
"If there is a heaven it must have thinning aspen gold, and flighting woodcock, and a bird dog" GBE
Rick Losey is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 09-16-2015, 05:48 AM   #63
Member
William Davis
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,180
Thanks: 137
Thanked 778 Times in 423 Posts

Default

1 1/8 oz 7 1/2. Remington SP 10 wad half inch 16 g fiber wad inside the SP 10. Either 19 Red Dot or 22 Green Dot is my standard Clay Target short 10 load. Unique being slower powder perhaps a grain or two more. Split the fiber wad to make the stack come out right for fold crimping.

Hunting, depending on the bird, I think I will go 1 1/4 oz and a very small increase in the Green Dot charge. Am ordering a bag of # 7 shot and working up loads to to use on Crows. 7 and 1 1/4 exceeds limits at most Clay target clubs, and lot more than needed for targets.

William
William Davis is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to William Davis For Your Post:
Unread 11-18-2015, 05:41 PM   #64
Member
Robert Watts
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default

Got it, are most of the lighter loads for the 2 7/8 hull length?

Last edited by Robert Watts; 11-18-2015 at 05:55 PM..
Robert Watts is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-18-2015, 06:21 PM   #65
Member
10 bore
PGCA Member
 
scott kittredge's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,928
Thanks: 7,568
Thanked 2,542 Times in 828 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Watts View Post
Got it, are most of the lighter loads for the 2 7/8 hull length?
all the loads here are for the 2 7/8 ths inch shells
__________________
No man laid on his death bed and said,"I wished I would have worked more"
scott kittredge is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-19-2015, 11:48 AM   #66
Member
Robert Watts
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default

I saw that after I enlarged the print on the copier, but thank you. I cranked out my first bp load for the short 10 last nite. One of Sherman Bell's. My gun isn't a Parker but an Ithaca Flues model with Damascus barrels and the 6000 range of pressure is sure what I was looking for. RW
Robert Watts is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-19-2015, 05:47 PM   #67
Member
J.B. Books
PGCA Member
 
Pete Lester's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,944
Thanks: 1,725
Thanked 5,061 Times in 1,427 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by William Davis View Post
1 1/8 oz 7 1/2. Remington SP 10 wad half inch 16 g fiber wad inside the SP 10. Either 19 Red Dot or 22 Green Dot is my standard Clay Target short 10 load. Unique being slower powder perhaps a grain or two more. Split the fiber wad to make the stack come out right for fold crimping.

Hunting, depending on the bird, I think I will go 1 1/4 oz and a very small increase in the Green Dot charge. Am ordering a bag of # 7 shot and working up loads to to use on Crows. 7 and 1 1/4 exceeds limits at most Clay target clubs, and lot more than needed for targets.

William
Scott and I shoot a lot of crows, hundreds for each of us each fall. We have tried shot sizes from 4's to 8's over the years. If you want the most effective shell for a crow at any range your shotgun can shoot go with #6 in any trap or skeet loading. You will see a noticable difference. Far more dead in the air folds over the smaller shot including #7.
__________________
Progress is the mortal enemy of the Outdoorsman.
Pete Lester is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Pete Lester For Your Post:
Unread 11-20-2015, 05:23 PM   #68
Member
William Davis
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,180
Thanks: 137
Thanked 778 Times in 423 Posts

Default

Pete

No doubt about it # 6 will kill at distance. When I hunted Ducks with Lead # 6 was all I used. Problem with the 6's for me is shooting light shot loads in SxS's I don't think I get enough pellets. Look at it this way, all from internet charts. nothing actually counted

For my 12 g loads

1 oz load # 7 296 pellets
1 oz load # 6 222 pellets

For my 10 G loads

1 1/8 oz # 7 331 pellets
1 1/8 oz # 6 308 pellets

Of course I could bump the 12's to 1 1/8 and 10's to 1 1/4. I have some RST 1 1/4 # 6 and they recoil too much in my 9 1/4 lb Ithaca Super 10. Not so bad in my 10 lb Parker Hammer 10. Never liked Factory 1 1/8 oz in 12 G Parkers either.

Good thing about loading is you can get it exactly like you want it.

William
William Davis is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-20-2015, 05:58 PM   #69
Member
J.B. Books
PGCA Member
 
Pete Lester's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,944
Thanks: 1,725
Thanked 5,061 Times in 1,427 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by William Davis View Post
Pete

No doubt about it # 6 will kill at distance. When I hunted Ducks with Lead # 6 was all I used. Problem with the 6's for me is shooting light shot loads in SxS's I don't think I get enough pellets. Look at it this way, all from internet charts. nothing actually counted

For my 12 g loads

1 oz load # 7 296 pellets
1 oz load # 6 222 pellets

For my 10 G loads

1 1/8 oz # 7 331 pellets
1 1/8 oz # 6 308 pellets

Of course I could bump the 12's to 1 1/8 and 10's to 1 1/4. I have some RST 1 1/4 # 6 and they recoil too much in my 9 1/4 lb Ithaca Super 10. Not so bad in my 10 lb Parker Hammer 10. Never liked Factory 1 1/8 oz in 12 G Parkers either.

Good thing about loading is you can get it exactly like you want it.

William
Not to pick on you William but I always find it humorous when a fellow crow hunter worries about pattern density when using #6. Trust me they will dump them consistently at any range you dare to shoot, even with open chokes. With tight chokes they are never getting though it.

Here are patterns through a Remington 10ga 1894 and 12ga 1900, these are both 1 1/8 ounce loads at 40 yards. The 12ga has a mere .024 of choke. Scott has a picture somewhere of a 7/8 ounce pattern of #6 on the life size vitals of a crow at 40 yards. If centered the bird would not survived.

PS. Your pellet counts are off, at least for #6. Most charts cite 225 per ounce. My hand count for pattern test below was 253 for 1 1/8 ounce.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0439.jpg (506.5 KB, 16 views)
File Type: jpg Remington1900LeftBarrel88%.jpg (497.0 KB, 16 views)
__________________
Progress is the mortal enemy of the Outdoorsman.
Pete Lester is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Pete Lester For Your Post:
Unread 11-20-2015, 07:07 PM   #70
Member
10 bore
PGCA Member
 
scott kittredge's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,928
Thanks: 7,568
Thanked 2,542 Times in 828 Posts

Default

[QUOTE=William Davis;182061]Pete
Problem with the 6's for me is shooting light shot loads in SxS's I don't think I get enough pellets.
I have shot 100's of crows over the years with 7/8th oz of 6's out on my 20 ga. For years that's all i shot when crow hunting. so i am sure i have shot 2000 crow with that load alone. There are plenty of pellets in 1 oz of 6's out of the 10 or 12 ga. i have killed close to 500 this year alone with above loads, for one shot size stay with 6's ! check out some of Pete and my parker hunting pics under my profile It will show some of our crow hunting trips
what ever you shoot at crows , have fun and good luck!!
__________________
No man laid on his death bed and said,"I wished I would have worked more"
scott kittredge is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to scott kittredge For Your Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:33 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.