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Old 11-17-2016, 09:38 PM   #1
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Looks like a great stick for a DEO-Grade
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:24 PM   #2
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Looks like a great stick for a DEO-Grade
Phillip: I do like your wood. My opinion is, that you have this right.
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Old 11-17-2016, 11:13 PM   #3
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Thanks guys I feel fortunate that I was able to get this stock blank from a friend. it's been sitting on a shelf for 15 years waiting for a special gun.
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Old 11-18-2016, 11:26 AM   #4
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A very worthy project, for sure!
It's all lost in the annals of family history now, but the first SxS shotguns that I had memories of, were a couple of Remingtons on the family farm.
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Phil, A DEO 1894 Remington is a very special gun. No two are alike. In fact even the C grades are pretty much individual.
To give you an idea of how scarce they are consider that several years ago I stopped by to visit Charlie Semmer to get his opinion on my Grandfathers CEO. He told me that my gun made 81 C grades he could verify. His estimate was there were probably only 300 or so C grades made. The C grades and above were rather custom guns according to Charlie. You D grade is certainly much rarer than a C. I bought be of his books while at his house and would urge you to find one. He was a very nice man. Your gun deserves to be brought back to its former glory. Peter C
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Thanks Dave for the information. Looking forward to getting this gun home and getting the restoration process started.
Does anyone know of articles written possibly for the DoubleGun Journel on graded 1894 Remington's?
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Thanks Dave for the information. Looking forward to getting this gun home and getting the restoration process started.
Does anyone know of articles written possibly for the DoubleGun Journel on graded 1894 Remington's?
Phil,

I only know of one article and that is on the Remington 16 gauge EEO that I own which is the only Ordnance barreled E grade 16 gauge that I have ever seen, I believe it is one of a kind. Engraved by the best, in my opinion, Joseph Loy.









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FWIW four of the five 12-gauge Remington Hammerless Double Barrel Shotguns in my collection have chambers that measure 2 5/8 inch. My FE-Grade Trap Gun has chambers that measure 2 3/4 inch but I suspect they may have been lengthened. It belonged to an old Pennsylvania Pigeon shooter and has a beavertail forearm and the choke of the left barrel was, I suspect, opened to .018".

My rather hap hazard table of observed high grade Remingtons has 18 D quality hammerless doubles on it. The nearest to this gun in question was 121359 with a straight grip stock which was for sale by the Cabelas in Lacey, Washington, a few years back. My note says "butt extension."

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Charles Semmer's article in The Double Gun Journal, Volume Twelve, Issue 3, page 143, about restocking a straight gripped DE-Grade with a horribly broken stock might be of interest to you.

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Thank you Dave. Now we know that 4 unmolested Remington 12 gauge hammerless guns that were made for 2-5/8" shells, have chambers that measure 2-5/8" long. So why are Parker and Fox the only American gun makers I remember hearing about, that seemingly followed that "practice" of cutting 12 gauge chambers @ 2-5/8" long for 2-3/4" shells?

Food for thought gents.
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I "wasted" the better part of Monday going through all my notes, slips of paper, pictures on three different computers, etc. and produced a new consolidated table of the engraved Remington hammerless doubles I've observed. I have 21 E quality and 18 D quality, plus in The Double Gun Journal, Volume Eleven, Issue 4, page 141, Charles mentioned three sets of Krupp barrels or Krupp barrel guns of D quality 140667, 140670 and 140672. Other then those, I don't have anything recorded in the 140xxx and 141xxx range?

I believe Charles was up around 31 each recorded in D and E qualities.
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