Gunning Snipe on the Gulf Coast 1901

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

Cleveland wrote a book on hunting (and it's pretty good, too!). I'm not sure what you mean by the "contrast between sports hunters and market hunters," but there were certainly conservation minded sporting authors and editors of sporting periodicals (Wilbur F. Parker, Sr. was a very early advocate for conservation who decried market gunning. You might be interested in my article on him that was in a recent Parker Pages.)

There is a more recent book, The Outlaw Gunner, that has accounts of market gunning, especially for waterfowl.

By contrast I meant if there was ethics debates between the market hunters and sports hunters and if there are books on that specific subject. What is the name of Clevelands book?

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

By contrast I meant if there was ethics debates between the market hunters and sports hunters and if there are books on that specific subject. What is the name of Clevelands book?

Milton, Cleveland's book is called, Fishing and Shooting Sketches. As for books that debate market v. sport hunting, I can't say that I recall any. There are some good scholarly works on the evolution of sport hunting that give a good account of how we evolved (we hunters in America) from shooting for the market to having rules of conduct for hunting (like there are in other sports, thus the term "sport" hunting). One of the best books in my opinion on this is Hunting and the American Imagination by Daniel Herman. It's a pretty dense book, I believe his PhD dissertation, but it is very thorough and has complete annotations for its sources, including lots of primary ones. It would be a great way to track down more of the kinds of issues I think you are after.

[Kevin McCormack]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

Heres another one of his works I saw recently about rail hunting.

The description for this print is mismatched; the title of the print is "Whistling for Plover" by Eakins. Notice the stick-up decoys; they are priceless today. Most were wood but several decoy makers offered sets of hollow, half-body tin decoys boxed in a wooden carrier. Complete sets command unbelievable prices at auction.

[Dean Romig]

I don’t know if this stick-up decoy is old or new… my mother picked it up for me about 40 years ago.

Looks like W. Ray Freden…?
And either B3 or 133 or… 83… ?

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[Dean Romig]

Did a bit of research on W. Ray Freden and learned he lived in Scituate Ma. and worked in furniture making. He first advertised his shore bird carvings in 1988 but had been carving for years before advertising.
I suspect the one my mother gave me was from before he began advertising them.
Here are a couple more of his carvings.

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