Why is a 12 ga Parker a "boat anchor" these days?

[edgarspencer]

Okay, have I proved that I am correct? https://winchestercollector.org/foru...esters/#p92001

Haha. It said so on the internet, so it must be true. I'm only going by experience buying and selling for 60 years, Not trying to make me feel better about my old guns.
I would be happy to put 20% on some of my pre 1898 1894s if you've got the money. My wife says I have too many pistol grip takedowns with set triggers anyway. Make her happy.

[MrBojangles]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

Most assume the opposite. But, when you buy a gun on a nics check, serial numbers are not given to the atf. The firearms information is recorded in the dealers bound book and on the 4473 form, and both are retained by the dealer in their business records.
When a nics check is called in the only question asked by the “examiner” at the call center is “type of transaction and firearm?”. Answer is “Sale of Long Gun”. That is it. Period. All they know if that a long gun is being sold. They dont even ask how many. It could be 25 long guns or just one.

The only time that serial number would ever be communicated to the atf by that dealer is in the event of a trace. Which means the gun would have to have been used in a crime or stolen/recovered. The atf works FORWARD from the manufacturer to current day. And with a gun as old as a Parker... they wouldn't get very far.

Yes, all true. But you never know someday if bound books get into the wrong hands, whatever that may be.

Okay, at the very least, I can have an antique firearm delivered to my door and not have to pay an FFL fee and can use that money instead for a bottle of Jack Daniel's.

[Opening Day]

Okay, at the very least, I can have an antique firearm delivered to my door and not have to pay an FFL fee and can use that money instead for a bottle of Jack Daniel's.

If you want to have it shipped to your door C&R license for $30 for 3 years and you can buy any gun more than 50 years old.

[MrBojangles]

Originally Posted by Eric Eis

If you want to have it shipped to your door C&R license for $30 for 3 years and you can buy any gun more than 50 years old.

If one buys 5 or so guns over 3 years is it worth it for the paperwork? I don't know as I've never looked into it and not something I considered before.

[Opening Day]

If one buys 5 or so guns over 3 years is it worth it for the paperwork? I don't know as I've never looked into it and not something I considered before.

You buy a ledger bound book, in it you list the date, make, cal/ga, serial number, who you bought from and then a who you sell it to if you do sell it or trade it. That's it so yes it's worth it to me and many other collectors. Go out of state to a shoot like the Southern see a gun buy it and give them a copy of your license. You have certainly taken this thread way off your original question

[Bill Murphy]

Brian's post reminds me of a funny story. The Parker Research Committee was hard at work at Ilion in 1998 when a Remington employee came into the archives and gave us a telegram or cable from an Italian police department. They implied a Parker shotgun had been used in a crime and asked if Remington could help them in their investigation. The Remington employee just said, "Can you guys handle this?" I assume Mark Conrad or Ron Kirby took the appropriate action. The serial number was very early but I can't remember whether we found the gun in the records. I still have a copy of the communication in my files. The week we were in the archives, we were asked to reply to any Parker related correspondence that came to Remington during that time.

[Ken Snyder]

Ian,
This is the Parker forum. Perhaps it is just my impression but your tone is becoming increasingly argumentative. May I make a suggestion? Take this for what it's worth in today's .02 valuation....

Arguing with senior members of this board sells the experience you could be having well short of its potential. Many of the gentlemen that monitor this forum are genuinely interested in helping anyone with an interest in Parker guns. This is the place to come and listen, to learn, to absorb history from all aspects as it pertains to the Parker Gun Company, the men and their creations. This is a "low noise to info" forum where the members do everything they can to stay on track and provide solid information to help both novice and advanced collectors widen their horizons.

There are other online forum options if you're cruising for a conflict.

Kindness and civility will always be welcome attributes anywhere you go.

Have a great day!
Ken

[MrBojangles]

Originally Posted by Ken Snyder

Ian,
This is the Parker forum. Perhaps it is just my impression but your tone is becoming increasingly argumentative. May I make a suggestion? Take this for what it's worth in today's .02 valuation....

Arguing with senior members of this board sells the experience you could be having well short of its potential. Many of the gentlemen that monitor this forum are genuinely interested in helping anyone with an interest in Parker guns. This is the place to come and listen, to learn, to absorb history from all aspects as it pertains to the Parker Gun Company, the men and their creations. This is a "low noise to info" forum where the members do everything they can to stay on track and provide solid information to help both novice and advanced collectors widen their horizons.

There are other online forum options if you're cruising for a conflict.

Kindness and civility will always be welcome attributes anywhere you go.

Have a great day!
Ken

Y'all were increasingly argumentative and refused to even acknowledge that antique firearms might sell for more than a comparable one. Then when I provided at least a shred of evidence, y'all sneered.

What a bunch of self absorbed know it alls.

[Craig Larter]

Ian please go away.

[MrBojangles]

Originally Posted by Craig Larter

Ian please go away.

Nice! What a wonderful welcoming forum!

Other forums are much less obtuse.

Congratulations, I was contemplating your Parker DH for sale if I don't snag the one from my friend. Perhaps I'll look elsewhere!