Here we go again - Page 5

Jeff Higgins · 08-12-2016, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Not necessarily so. Here in MA a copy of the transfer of ownership form (gun registration form) including the make, capacity, and serial number is sent to the Criminal Recoeds Division and is kept on file indefinitely. This probably varies from state to state but the ATF and FBI can access these records any time they so desire, and if that isn't government gun registration, I don't know what is.

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Dean is correct. It is the same here in Ct. Any firearm transaction needs to get a authorization number from the State Police firearms unit. Then a form DPS-3 with all the info of buyer,seller and the firearm is sent to both the State PD and to the buyers local PD. This also now has to be done on private sales as well not just purchases at a FFL dealer.

King Brown · 08-08-2016, 10:27 AM

As leading member of the British Commonwealth, Canada did similarly, Dean, and you and I are not separated as gun owners in our concerns for oppression and freedom. Canada's history of responsible citizenship, valour and sacrifice takes a back seat to none.

Canada developed differently from the US with an unforeseen consequence of a strong belief in our governance and institutions, not fearing responsible government---which Nova Scotia gave to the British North American colonies long ago.

The ballot worked wonderfully as expressions of a majority. No need for hoarding bullets for peace and good order of government as expressed this week on the other distinguished board. Those who don't believe in their country don't remain as citizens of a great nation.

Proof will be November. Americans believe in their country---and the ballot.

King Brown · 08-08-2016, 11:03 AM

As a long-time contributor to the board, I can say there's no need to apologize to anyone for your post in general discussions etc. Nor is there an injunction of any kind for Canadians or any other nationality to post within the rules on this international board.

A previous federal government responding to a madman's massacre of female engineering students in Montreal imposed with its majority a gun registry which the succeeding federal government reversed with its majority because of its unfairness and ungodly cost.

I travel a lot and have lots of conversations in the US and overseas with Americans of every political stripe and conviction. A distinctive part of those conversations is almost invariably the comment from the Americans, "I wish we could talk this way at home."

This board is my home, Eric, with rights for me as other members. The fact that the US has been so polarized by its politics that citizens aren't talking to each other is no reason to migrate that nonsense to the board. Parker owners are better than that---and that's gospel!

Opening Day · 08-08-2016, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by King Brown

As a long-time contributor to the board, I can say there's no need to apologize to anyone for your post in general discussions etc. Nor is there an injunction of any kind for Canadians or any other nationality to post within the rules on this international board.

A previous federal government responding to a madman's massacre of female engineering students in Montreal imposed with its majority a gun registry which the succeeding federal government reversed with its majority because of its unfairness and ungodly cost.

I travel a lot and have lots of conversations in the US and overseas with Americans of every political stripe and conviction. A distinctive part of those conversations is almost invariably the comment from the Americans, "I wish we could talk this way at home."

This board is my home, Eric, with rights for me as other members. The fact that the US has been so polarized by its politics that citizens aren't talking to each other is no reason to migrate that nonsense to the board. Parker owners are better than that.

I'm sorry Mr. King, you are not even a member of the PGCA ("This board is my home, Eric, with rights for me as other member"),you have never helped anyone on the board with a Parker or double gun question. If and when I see you post to members questions about how to or what is this, instead of only your politics I might believe you, but I don't see that ! As to this board being your "Home" as you call it I haven't seen you post anything in regards to Parkers or side by sides.

King Brown · 08-08-2016, 12:47 PM

One doesn't have to be a PGCA member to feel at home in its forums, Eric. The Association welcomes participants to the board, whether paying annual and life members or not. The Association makes no distinction regarding participation aside from identifying membership status with posts. I've been both, an annual member and (mistakenly) life member with words emblazoned in gold in 1993 when the current PGCA was formed.

Your obligation to believe me is clear, in your own words, "if and when I see you post to members questions about how to or what is this . . ." Firstly, I observe Association rules to not engage in politics. Secondly. I contribute about guns when I can, only last week on Chris Dawe's splendid project.

You are also wrong to make less of me as "not even a member of the PGCA" as if only continuing annual-paying PGCA members have standing in these forums. PGCA doesn't administer its mandate so narrowly of sharing information. I've accepted your understanding now, with thanks.

OH Osthaus · 08-08-2016, 01:26 PM

ok

two countries - two traditions,
i doubt this is going to change any minds

and really----what the heck does this have to do with shotshell reloading

Paul Harm · 08-08-2016, 04:36 PM

King, in a previous post you said -" We're a different culture, a different country and, looking at the circus south these days, whatever Canada is the US isn't. Sticking together is key. " I would rather " live in the circus south " any day and in any other country. Just so we understand, the international homicide rate is 4.9 per 100,000. The US rate is 2.9 per 100,000. We rate #28 in the world. I've seen your post on other boards and it's about the same as here. As far as I'm concerned, you can keep your Canadian guns views to yourself and sit back and watch the circus unfold between us Americans.

Opening Day · 08-08-2016, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Harm

King, in a previous post you said -" We're a different culture, a different country and, looking at the circus south these days, whatever Canada is the US isn't. Sticking together is key. " I would rather " live in the circus south " any day and in any other country. Just so we understand, the international homicide rate is 4.9 per 100,000. The US rate is 2.9 per 100,000. We rate #28 in the world. I've seen you post on other boards and it's about the same as here. As far as I'm concerned, you can keep your Canadian guns views to yourself and sit back and watch the circus unfold between us Americans.

Could not have said it better Paul.
I guess you and I just don't like ..... what's the word we are searching for , oh yeah "Troll". Mr Brown your add nothing to this board, you just stir the pot, and yes King I l looked at your previous posts and as I said before you have not added any information or asked/answered a legitimate question about Parkers or double guns on this board. What I have read about you on other boards I guess is true. And I just realized Mr. Brown that you sucessfully baited me into this argument so I will not respond to you on this thread anymore, and hopefully you will stay in Canada and keep your opinions about gun control in the US to yourself as this is the US and not Canada, and as I have said before you have no skin or rights in this game....

King Brown · 08-09-2016, 10:31 AM

Scroll back to the beginning of the thread, Eric and Paul, for differences of opinion about Canadian guns laws, assault rifles and hoarding for the apocalypse---and unfailing mutual respect for each other. It was you who apologized to the moderator for your remarks, Eric, and pledged to see things differently if I could prove you were wrong, which I did. I have contributed information here for 23 years and corresponded privately over a wide range of members' interests without an accusation of being a troll. And you describe yourself as the victim. Grade school stuff, eh?

Paul Harm · 08-10-2016, 12:25 PM

King, many of us feel very strongly about our 2nd Amendment rights. Especially the part " the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” It's worked for around 250 years and we don't see any reason to change it now. And we don't like progressives trying to chip away at our rights till they get what they want - NO GUNS. As said before, you have no dog in this fight, so the POLITE thing to do is not say anything. You're a Canadian, not an American, so it's not really any of your business. Thank you, I'm done.