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Unread 12-04-2023, 10:22 AM   #41
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Thanks Drew,

These old guns with Damascus are interesting!

Here’s another favorite of mine, Crass 4 10 gauge
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Jeeez at first I thought you were indicating a .410 but now I see my mistake.
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That Crass 4 10 is over the top. Wonderful gun Stan.
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That is some beautiful work from the folks at Fall Creek Water Power Lot No. 6, Stan. Some of those early Crass guns marked 4 are so far beyond what became the No. 4 as Ithaca grading settled out in the later hammerless models. A No. 4E from about 60 years later --

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Stan: the .410 barrels are 3 Iron also. Ignore the breech, where the tube is thicker, and getting a nice pattern is harder.
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I wish it was a .410

Forgive me for not being clear, it is a Quality/Grade 4, it is a 10 gauge

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Daryl,
That grade 5 you have there is beautiful, I don’t recall seeing engraving quite like that before, meaning the birds forward of the dogs in a circle. Have you encountered that layout before?

Wayne’s grade 6 also has a similar layout, maybe similar to the roundells encountered on Parker’s occasionally, that is a very nice layout if you will.

I have a grade 4 with elk/deer on the side panels and then a setter on the floor plate, and then a few grade 3’s with multiple species of birds on the sides, but no dogs.
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That grade 5 you have there is beautiful, I don’t recall seeing engraving quite like that before, meaning the birds forward of the dogs in a circle. Have you encountered that layout before?

Wayne’s grade 6 also has a similar layout, maybe similar to the roundells encountered on Parker’s occasionally, that is a very nice layout if you will.

I have a grade 4 with elk/deer on the side panels and then a setter on the floor plate, and then a few grade 3’s with multiple species of birds on the sides, but no dogs.
Crass gun are gunshows in themselves. I don't know the engravers on the higher grades, but they seem to have fertile imaginations. I have not seen the bird/dog placement before that I can recall.
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My memory is slipping

I recalled that I had picked up a 30" 16 gauge Grade 6 Crass. It is in bad shape, broken butt stock, some rust on the barrels, etc.

I decided any Grade 6 Crass is worth bringing back to some kind of respectability, even more so if it is a 16 gauge with 30" barrels.

I will post pictures later, the engraving is of the same layout as Wayne's Grade 6 and Daryl's Grade 5. There are some other features that make it really desirable in my eyes, skeleton butt plate, and the Damascus pattern is different than I've encountered on any other Crass. The pattern reminds me of the Parker manufactured laminated pattern.

Drew,
I look forward to your answer on the Damascus barrels.
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