Standardized Shotshell dimensions.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

That really tickled me... Here's a guy (Edgar) who owns each and every model of vise that Parker ever made and look at the vise he's using...

There are 'Horses for Courses' wherever you go. The Vise is Infinity Tool's copy of the Original Versa Vise, and will go from vertical to horizontal in seconds, and rotate 360 degrees in either plane. If it makes you happy, there's 473 5 feet away.

[Dean Romig]

Hayes stamped his name on some of those, is that one stamped?





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[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Hayes stamped his name on some of those, is that one stamped?.

Of course you knew that because I showed you his stamping on many of the other tools. Not this one. It is entirely hardened so that would be nearly impossible to do.

[Dean Romig]

The fact of where I got that information was never in dispute. My point was merely to ask if that tool was one of the ones you had that had his stamp. And just as in engraving, I would have suspected that if it was going to be stamped it would have been hardened after the fact.





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[Richard Flanders]

I was looking at that vise wondering where I could get one!! I have a small one like that and really like it. I was also wondering if the rubber jaws have a full length magnet.... unlike my sets that don't and just love the leap out of the vise and fall on the floor.

[edgarspencer]

Richard, That vise has become my useful one. It came with rubber faced jaws, aluminum faced jaws and another set which are aluminum and have angled recesses for holding rounds in three different angles. I didn't inquire, but the ad in the Infinity catalog said "Three accessory jaw sets" and in actuality came with three sets of each. The magnetic material is that 'rubberish' stuff and runs the full width.

Dean, the only Hayes stamps I have ever seen are very small fonts; less than a sixteenth. Wood working tools can be made from high carbon steels, and hardened, but metal cutting tools containing Molybdenum or Vanadium, since the late 1800s are ground with silicon carbide (much later, sintered carbides and diamonds) and never supplied in an annealed state. A tiny tool like the one Hayes had would be rendered useless the first time it was tried on any sort of tool steel like HSS, etc. The Hayes Choke reamers were the only tools I ever had with his name on them, and I have no idea how he stamped them.

[Dean Romig]

But my point was when, or in what stage, did Hayes stamp his tools - or was the tool simply made of a harder alloy than the barrel steel?





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[B. Dudley]

There are two Hayes markings on the choke reamers. One is simply his initials in larger letters. JPH. The other is his full name in small letters. The full name marking is the exact same marking/stamp that is on both Hayes Prototype Parkers. The 1910-1912 DH, in my collection, and the 1928 Trojan in the Remington Museum.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

But my point was when, or in what stage, did Hayes stamp his tools - or was the tool simply made of a harder alloy than the barrel steel?

No idea on the 'when' part. Most Tool & Die makers don't even mark the tools, because they belong to whomever they work for, and not necessarily because of what they're made of.
Barrel steel and Tool steel are as different as night and day. CrMo is very soft in comparison.

[Richard Flanders]

I looked up Infinity tool and tried to order that vise with the jaw sets for $99. They're unavailable so I'm on a list to be notified when they have them again. I can easily see that being my most used vise by far.