New 8 gauge paper hulls

[charlie cleveland]

my die is the same as miltons ....wayne gave me the measurments and a friend done the work...my die will resize the 8 ga hull in one stroke...charlie

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

my die is the same as miltons ....wayne gave me the measurments and a friend done the work...my die will resize the 8 ga hull in one stroke...charlie

Charlie, Art may be on to something with the lathe. Since theres no head stamp under the brass ring on the Remingtons you could get that electric headstamping kit from midway and mark it as whatever you please. hmmm

[6pt-Sika]

Not saying it’s better or worse , however the setup I got from Ken Burns screws in a press . One stroke down to resize then one stroke on the plunger to knock it out . The WIN hulls go thru easy enough unlubed the REM hulls I lube and piece of cake . Granted Burns setup is about $300 , but in the whole scheme of things that isn’t squat . Simplicity and quickness are important to me . My enjoyment out of loading isn’t what it was , not saying I don’t like it anylonger but I loose intrest a good bit quicker now .

[ArtS]

Originally Posted by Milton C Starr

Charlie, Art may be on to something with the lathe. Since theres no head stamp under the brass ring on the Remingtons you could get that electric headstamping kit from midway and mark it as whatever you please. hmmm

Turns out Art is maybenot on to much. Got the gun today, first thing is I tried a shell for fit (one with the outer brass removed). Went in great. Too great. Turns out the inner plain brass rim thickness is much too thin to hold the head at the proper height. I tried a Winchester swaged down and a new Parker headstamped brass case, and they fit fine. It looks like at least the industrial Remington cases are made a nonstandard size and then the over brass swaged on. Since the swaged Winchester fits when swaged, I have to assume they are too. Which leads us back to the Fiocchi based paper shells. I wonder how they make their case heads. If you are going to make them nonstandard as a base and then swage on a nonstandard over lay, that just seems goofy. The Industrial guns could just as easily been chambered for a round with the proper headspace and the case heads made that way. As they are built, both sections are nonstandard.

I'm going to bore out a bushing tonight and polish it.

[Milton C Starr]

Originally Posted by Arthur Shaffer

Turns out Art is maybenot on to much. Got the gun today, first thing is I tried a shell for fit (one with the outer brass removed). Went in great. Too great. Turns out the inner plain brass rim thickness is much too thin to hold the head at the proper height. I tried a Winchester swaged down and a new Parker headstamped brass case, and they fit fine. It looks like at least the industrial Remington cases are made a nonstandard size and then the over brass swaged on. Since the swaged Winchester fits when swaged, I have to assume they are too. Which leads us back to the Fiocchi based paper shells. I wonder how they make their case heads. If you are going to make them nonstandard as a base and then swage on a nonstandard over lay, that just seems goofy. The Industrial guns could just as easily been chambered for a round with the proper headspace and the case heads made that way. As they are built, both sections are nonstandard.

I'm going to bore out a bushing tonight and polish it.

The Fiocchi case head looks to be one piece like the Winchesters.

[ArtS]

I recieved the two bushings I ordered and got a few minutes to work on them. I chucked them bothe up then through drillled with a 7/8" bit and ran a reamer through set at .900. It came out good and smooth and about 15 thou too small.
Tomorrow I will either bore or ream on out to a snug fit on the smaller section of the remington head, then pollish it and use it to swage down a hull and try it. The fitting has a radius on the threaded entry, so I may need to face off one end or the other to be sure it sizes right to the rim. Could leave one tapered entry and one squared and do in two passes if hard. That may work better for fired cases to go in a new gun.