Damascus Barrels- yes or no? - Page 5

Drew Hause · 08-08-2016, 10:01 PM

Re: the shell box warning

A.P. Curtis published the second of a two part article entitled “Advantages of Short Shotgun Chambers” in the March 1938 American Rifleman (Courtesy of Larry Brown) which dates the warning.
SAAMI, assembled in serious conference on March 26, 1937, passed the following resolution: “That an appropriate warning label be placed on all boxes containing smokeless powder shells, cautioning the consumer against using them in short chambered guns and also in guns with Damascus barrels and guns not in first-class condition.”

More here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...hIiY62Hx4/edit

and "Damascus Mythology & Reality" in the recent Summer issue of Double Gun Journal. The Fall and Winter issues will contain a 2 part Failure Analysis and Metallurgical Study of a damascus barrel burst, which will refute pattern welded barrel...confusion.

Dean Romig · 08-09-2016, 01:39 PM

And the Beat Goes On.....

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King Cobb · 08-09-2016, 02:19 PM

I had never noticed that warning before Dean. Checked my most recent boxes and sure enough its on there...

Dean Romig · 08-09-2016, 02:36 PM

Its all about liability. Things would sooo much better if lawyers were never invented....

Sorry George....

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Kensal Rise · 08-09-2016, 02:37 PM

Explanation:
I'm sure many of you are all too familiar with these two words:

"Liability"

"Lawyer"

Please notice that I have not included the words "reality" or "truth."
Enough said?

John Davis · 08-10-2016, 06:45 AM

And a bleeding heart liberal is all about gun control until he needs one.

Dean Romig · 08-10-2016, 06:48 AM

Oops... Apologies to John too.

It it surprising how many antis own or carry a gun.

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Twombly setters · 08-10-2016, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

A couple from last season with a 20 ga. DH and a 16 ga. lifter. Both great light upland guns.

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wheres Grace?

TARNATION !!! · 08-10-2016, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Lester

The hardest part of shooting nitro powder loads in a composite barreled gun is pulling the trigger for the first time. It gets a lot easier to do after that. Eventually the novelty of it will wear off and you will feel just as comfortable shooting them as any gun.

How true that is. When I was a kid, we had a hammer Jannsen Sons & Co. that my dad said we must never shoot. Laminated barrels. I still have that gun (completely dismantled now) and after I get it all back together I will take it afield one day. I did get a nice damascus GHE that, after reading this forum years ago, I decided I'm going to give it a go. I was truly nervous about pulling the trigger but managed a few shots. The only fatality suffered was by a couple nice roosters. I have shot damascus now for several years, including Parkers and some English guns (oops does that make this an off-topic post?)

Kensal Rise · 08-10-2016, 07:37 PM

Your post reminds me of something I've mentioned before:

My friend Kirk Merrington has a drawer in his shop with about a dozen failed shotgun barrels that he's saved from customer work. ALL of them with blown out chunks and catastrophic failures are fluid steel barrels. The composite barrels that have failed mostly bulge or split in minor ways. What's more, English proof houses have always considered "Damascus" barrels fully on par with fluid steel for proof testing.

Thus, a barrel's condition and wall thickness dictates safety. Not the material it's made from.

This may not make you feel any better, but it's the truth.