Trojan or DH?

[Autumn Daze]

Wayne, To clarify things a bit for you. A D grade would be a hammergun. A DH would be a D grade hammerless gun sans ejectors and a DHE would be a D grade hammerless gun with ejectors.

Although this is the proper terminology many times these designations are used interchangably.

[Mills]

Pretty is as pretty does. I bought a PH 12 earlier this year which has ugly repairs on the stock, but knocks clays like nobody's business. Now, it won't win any beauty contests.

[wayne goerres]

Thank you for your help. That H has had me puzzled for some time.

[edgarspencer]

Steve, I can't say for all gauges, but the 12 gauge Trojan was available with 28" and 30" barrels. Various choke combinations as well. I couldn't say with any authority, but there are 26" Trojans listed on a few sites too, but it's possible they may be shortened from a 28 or 30" barrel.

[B. Dudley]

The Trojan was created partly out of competition with the Fox Sterlingworth, as well as other field grade guns from manufacturers like LC Smith and Ithaca. Is most cases, the guns were half (or more than) the price of Parker's VH.

Parker was though, relatively unaccomodating on special orders for Trojans. They were not available with any options and selection of frame sizes, barrel lengths and dimensions were limited.

That is mainly where the Sterlingworth and the Trojan vary is that the Sterlingworth was available with more factory options. The Sterlingworth was always available with Ejectors.

The Fox is also a very good gun. The mechanism is a bit more simple than the Parker. Most would say that it is the only other American made Box Lock that compared to Parker by way of reliability and quality. I would wager to say that many of us Parker guys may own a Fox as well.

[ch]

I have a 16 Trojan was called IC Full when I bought it. Havent patterned it. Dave Sanders has a 16 Trojan for sell little rough don't know about price that is up to the buyer. I've met Dave he is a really nice fellow. I think he is on his own again.

[edgarspencer]

The Lefever people swore there was no such gun as a Nitro Special with ejectors, yet a friend has one, and it's not a made up gun, according to Brad B.
Anytime Trojans are discussed, the lack of ejectors comes up, but I know I recently saw a Trojan with ejectors come up for sale.
Never say Never

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

The Lefever people swore there was no such gun as a Nitro Special with ejectors, yet a friend has one, and it's not a made up gun, according to Brad B.
Anytime Trojans are discussed, the lack of ejectors comes up, but I know I recently saw a Trojan with ejectors come up for sale.
Never say Never

I do not like ejector guns because it is easier to pluck out the shell than to try to catch it when dropping the barrels.

My Sterlingworth and Lefever guns are F&M. I've got a flat of "spreaders" I'm going to try them at Skeet.

[J. A. EARLY]

Steve,

You mentioned there are few Parkers at guns shows in your area. And prices are everywhere. I would suggest looking here for Parkers for sale that are listed here first before they go on one of the auction sites. There are very nice guns for reasonable money offered for sale. Some real bargains. The descriptions are usually very detailed and include the critical wall thickness measurements, choke measurements, length of pull and drop. The guns from my experience are just as described and in my opinion these members are a source to be trusted. But you've got to be quick when they appear on the for sale section if you are interested in buying one of them.

While you ask about a Trojan as compared to the VH (or PH for that matter), I would always for the same or close money go with the higher grade gun. The metal work, metal hardware on the forearm, higher grade wood, dog's head buttplate, and finer checkering are certainly more appealing in my opinion. And usually lighter even in the same frame size. But there were less than half as many utility grade Trojan's made so one in good shape is a true find.

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Jerry Harlow

Steve,

You mentioned there are few Parkers at guns shows in your area. And prices are everywhere. I would suggest looking here for Parkers for sale that are listed here first before they go on one of the auction sites. There are very nice guns for reasonable money offered for sale. Some real bargains. The descriptions are usually very detailed and include the critical wall thickness measurements, choke measurements, length of pull and drop. The guns from my experience are just as described and in my opinion these members are a source to be trusted. But you've got to be quick when they appear on the for sale section if you are interested in buying one of them.

While you ask about a Trojan as compared to the VH (or PH for that matter), I would always for the same or close money go with the higher grade gun. The metal work, metal hardware on the forearm, higher grade wood, dog's head buttplate, and finer checkering are certainly more appealing in my opinion. And usually lighter even in the same frame size. But there were less than half as many utility grade Trojan's made so one in good shape is a true find.

Jerry, I think your advice is good advice. I'm not in a hurry to buy something new and I have some very nice shotguns already and I'm enjoying shooting them. Nor am I into high grade guns, I just don't want to lay out that kind of cash, but I like nice shooting guns. Truthfully, my GH is a little too ancient. I like it and I shoot it, but I'm still looking for a more shootable Parker. By shootable I mean a higher comb and open chokes. I like a 14" LOP or close to it. Sure, I'll change my mind if I see the gun that I really want. So I'm waiting. I am enjoying it.