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Steel
I feel a little obligated to add my two cents.
Lead IS a long range load but a slice of history past. Even in the pre lead ban days there was a range that was "out of range". I agree with Desrty that "within range" steel works fine. The effective range IS shorter but it patterns well. The newer non toxic loads do add a little more range, but they also have a limit. The key here is to learn effective range and respect it. In my opinion, a fast load of #3 steel for ducks in my Parker Reproduction at reasonable ranges works just fine. Steve Kleist Ely, MN |
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03-04-2012, 12:43 PM
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I grew up with lead, went to steel when forced to, researched it, loaded it, and ended up with 1-5/8 -1's or B's in my 10 ga o/u. That said I never liked it, just had too many cripples.
Then I started using 1-3/8 bismuth #4's or tungsten polymer #5' in 12 ga. and have never seen any reason to go back to steel. My son has switched to heavy tungsten (ok in his newer Beretta) and really likes it. I really worry that someday 'They' will force us to use nontoxic on upland birds. Interesting side note, this year for the first time ever, I had a DOW guy ask to see my shells. C.G.B. |
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03-04-2012, 04:04 PM
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Phil, at 80 I'm still working in the wage economy but "retired" in a sense all my life. You're not living if you're not having fun. Make time for the important things.
Destry does that on a scale we all admire, happily on right side of the grass. My cousin, a fanatic salmon angler, made time off when the fish were running as a term of his employment. Either way, family first and then fun. Regards, King |
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03-04-2012, 08:27 PM
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I hate to hijack my own thread but, Tomorrow is my first day of retirement and I promised myself to enjoy the simple things in life even more. My 1st day of retirement will be bitter sweet. One of my hunting partners for the past 14 years, " Jules" has taken a turn for the worst. I have tried to do my best to keep her going but last night she went downhill fast. She is resting in my bedroom on her bed by the gun safe where she has slept the better part of the last 14 years. I brought in the bird vest and laid it by her seems to bring us both a little comfort. I now just need to courage to do the right thing and take her to the vet for the last time in the morning. I thought I would share a few pictures of the good times we spent together, along with her daughter I lost last year at the age of 11.
http://s557.photobucket.com/albums/s...rrent=3247.jpg http://s557.photobucket.com/albums/s...rrent=3922.jpg http://s557.photobucket.com/albums/s...rrent=3247.jpg http://s557.photobucket.com/albums/s...rrent=2654.jpg http://s557.photobucket.com/albums/s...rrent=1966.jpg http://s557.photobucket.com/albums/s...ent=1965-1.jpg |
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03-04-2012, 10:19 PM
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Sorry. Take solace in that you've been a good companion, Phil. When my last Lab died, I said no more, that's enough, can't do it anymore. A few months later my daughter phoned to say that I should meet my son, a corporate pilot, at the airport. On a sunny day, the Falcon 50 taxied to the ramp, the engines spooled down, the stairs came out, I looked at the darkened doorway, and out walked the three-month black Lab I have today, 8 1/2 years old, so he'll probably outlast me. Jake walked down the stairs to 30 metres off the ramp to have a pee. My son said, "We knew you couldn't live without a dog."
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03-05-2012, 08:07 AM
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i feel for you this day...remember the good times.... charlie
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03-06-2012, 11:36 AM
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Phil, I am so sorry to hear about Jules. Although pets are not human they are definitely useful family members. I have had two dogs die in my arms and I sobbed over both of them. Both lasted an incredible 17 years and brought more joy and laughter into the house than I had a right to expect. I haven't replaced them yet but would like to when accommodations permit. I am sure all members of the forum know what you are feeling.
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03-06-2012, 11:55 AM
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Phil, I am sorry for your loss. I understand completely.
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