What do you think of this one?

[Tennessee Dave]

Pictures of the barrel flats have been added to the link.

[Bill Murphy]

The skeet markings look very "factory" with one marking encroaching on the barrel weight stamps. Could this be a Runge-DelGrego upgrade? Personally, I don't care, but the price and value would be very different.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

The skeet markings look very "factory" with one marking encroaching on the barrel weight stamps. Could this be a Runge-DelGrego upgrade? Personally, I don't care, but the price and value would be very different.

191767 is a 1920 0-frame 28 gauge gun but it’s not in the serialization book and there is no data upon which to base a research letter. Obviously in one of the “missing” books… perhaps in one of the books in the possession of the DelGrego family, eh?

This gun was manufactured six years before Skeet was invented and like sixteen years before Remington/Parker were stamping the SKEET IN and SKEET OUT on the flats.

We’ll never know what happened with this gun… It sure is pretty though.





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[Jim Thynne]

Congdon Mansion!

[Jim Thynne]

And by the way, talk about two characters. They were so much fun!!

[Dean Romig]

Jim, in what year was that murder committed?





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[Larry the Gun Guy]

Merz people gave me permission to post these pictures. I noticed in the book it shows only 5 28 gauge AAH guns; 4 with 28" barrels and one with a 32" barrel. No guns with 26" barrels. And like someone already said the gun was made prior to skeet being invented. These pictures show, in detail, some issues with the printed numbers on the barrel flats, including the over stamping of the frame size on the barrel lug. See for yourselves. And like I said before that barrel extention fit is very suspect to me.
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[edgarspencer]

Wouldn't genuine Whitworth tubes be individually serialized just forward of the barrel flats?

[Randy Roberts]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

Wouldn't genuine Whitworth tubes be individually serialized just forward of the barrel flats?

Edgar, early on as in pre 1900 there was a time when PB did stamp the order number on barrels. This number was not the same as the serial number per TPS. I am not aware of individually serialized barrel serial numbers on Whitworth barrels, maybe someone has such a specimen. I have 3 sets of Whitworth, all are post 1900. Going from memory none have numbers stamped forward of the flats, 1 has what I presumed was an order number on each flat, 1 has an order number on 1 flat, and the last has no numbers at all. These presumably order numbers differ from the serial numbers.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts

Edgar, early on as in pre 1900 there was a time when PB did stamp the order number on barrels. This number was not the same as the serial number per TPS. I am not aware of individually serialized barrel serial numbers on Whitworth barrels, maybe someone has such a specimen. I have 3 sets of Whitworth, all are post 1900. Going from memory none have numbers stamped forward of the flats, 1 has what I presumed was an order number on each flat, 1 has an order number on 1 flat, and the last has no numbers at all. These presumably order numbers differ from the serial numbers.

Randy, There is a photograph of John Allen's AAH 28 ga, SN 178209, shown on page 332 in the Parker Story, and references Whitworth tube serial numbers 49131 and 49132, shown stamped on the barrel flats. The bottom of page 334, it states "Many Parker guns that we have seen with Whitworth steel barrels have the serial number of the Whitworth tube stamped on the flats of each tube." I guess the key word is 'Many', as opposed to all. I am familiar with one particular AAH 12 ga, where the Whitworth serial numbers (consecutive, not the same as an order number might be) stamped well forward of the barrel flats.
Interestingly, the Parker Story states that Whitworth Barrels were replaced by Peerless barrels prior to 1920.