I have several questions about Parker frame sizes?

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by Daryl Corona

I've got to agree with Mr. Larter on the weight of a Fox 20 to a Parker O frame 20. The Fox is just slimmer and lighter. I've got 8 Parker 20's, all O frames and I certainly love shooting them. The frame of my OO 28ga is actually the same size as one of my Fox 20's or 16's.

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop

Would love to see that 000 frame 28!

Fat fingers. I fixed it Chuck. 🤦*♂️🤷*♂️

[Rick Roemer]

0 frame 28 gauge with factory 27” barrels -6 lbs even.

[Reggie B]

I have a GHE 20 skeet that weighs 3 ounces more than my Fox 20 Skeet & Upland w/ ejectors. Both 26" barrels, both straight stock. 3 ounces in my opinion is insignificant. The GHE of course is a 0 frame. I am sure there are examples that could go either way. But in general I suppose the Fox guns are lighter, but not significantly in my experience.

[Tennessee Dave]

I really appreciate all the information given in this thread. I have learned a lot and it's from real time experience from people that hunt with these guns. It's helping me to decide on which gun I will try to win in the upcoming Guyette and Deeter auction. Thanks, and I hope the info just keeps coming in.

[Clark McCombe]

I have a 30” 12ga weighs in at 7lb 1oz. #2 frame
Is that possible or my scale off

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Stan Hillis

So, what Parker frame size in a 12 ga. would approximate the weight of my 32" barreled Fox HE which weighs in at 9 lbs. 6.6 oz., which by the way handles very well?

Three frame 10 gauge Parker’s to me kinda felt the same . The HE I had was restocked and 30” coming in around 9.5 pounds , the three frame 34” 10 gauge NH I’m shooting at present is a few ounces heavier but felt better in my hands than the HE .

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Craig Larter

I love my #6 frame Parker 8ga guns and can understand the weight using 2oz or 2 1/4oz loads back in the day. But why a 6 frame in any other gauge? Why would anyone want a 13 pound plus 12ga or 10ga?? I once owned a 10ga D 36" #6 frame, that is still owned by a member, it was a beast.

I’ve had a five frame hammer 10 in my hands (owned by a friend) and three four frame hammer guns in my hands one of which I got from you and I thought the four of them rather cumbersome . But I also think the stock dimensions had a bit to do with that . There was a time I wanted 10’s or 8’s in frames sizes 2-7 got them all except a 5 frame .

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley

Frame sizes were not recorded in the order books. They were in the factory stock books.

There are references to frame sizes (as measured over the bolsters) in the earlier hammer gun days. But, yes, there being an actual column in the stock books for frame size was not until later on, like 19-teens or early 20s. I cannot recall either.

It was one of them thar books. I had a 50/50 shot at remembering which one.

[Bill Murphy]

Chuck and Dave, there are two 000 frame 28 gauges out there. They were displayed at the PGCA meeting at the Ohio Gun Collectors show. They were measured to prove their originality. By the way, most if not all of the #6 frame 10 gauges were originally 8 gauges and were rebarrelled to 10 when 8 gauges were outlawed for waterfowl in the early 20th century. The 12 gauge #6 frame gun probably came to life the same way.

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Chuck and Dave, there are two 000 frame 28 gauges out there. They were displayed at the PGCA meeting at the Ohio Gun Collectors show. They were measured to prove their originality. By the way, most if not all of the #6 frame 10 gauges were originally 8 gauges and were rebarrelled to 10 when 8 gauges were outlawed for waterfowl in the early 20th century. The 12 gauge #6 frame gun probably came to life the same way.

We need a follow up book to TPS that includes all the things we’ve learned since its publication.