Parker .410

[Stan Hillis]

Originally Posted by Jay Oliver

Dave I have seen on 410 Parker hang tags that they were tested/patterned with 3/8oz. of shot. Does it say on those boxes the powder charge in drams or the velocity?

There is a company called Sterling that makes 3/8oz 2 1/2" 410s @ 1329fps. That seemed a little fast to me

My bet would be that the Sterling load would not be regulated out of any vintage .410 double. I have had considerable experience with .410 doubles, in the field and on clays courses, vintage and contemporary, and have found several to be very finicky about what they want to be fed.

Loads on the light end, and at high velocities, often crossfire in lightweight doubleguns such as .410s.

Also, addressing an earlier question you had about loads, I have had great success with WW 3/4 oz. loads on doves and quail, and have "designed", and use, a 3/4 oz. nickel plated load of 8 1/2s to great success on doves. Patterns beautifully and definitely puts doves on the ground "deader" than any .410 load I've ever used on them. It's a little sledgehammer.

[Bill Murphy]

Yup, Stan, same load I shoot in 20 and 12.

[mobirdhunter]

Jay, congratulations on your new gun. I’ve been buttering up my wife in hopes of getting the go ahead for one. I’d like one just like yours. Post some photos when you can.

[Jay Oliver]

I will start a new thread on this, though this thread helped me make the decision on this 410. I will get some pictures up and should be able to try the gun out tomorrow. Gary I did have to charm my wife as fast as I could as time was of the essence on this deal. Luckily she understands by now

I have ordered some nickle plated shot in addition to some other components that are on the way, which I believe patterns better especially in a 410. Since I am limited to 2 1/2 inch shells I might see if I can work up some 5/8oz loads. Or use my 5/8oz bar which probably throws 9/16oz. I would like to get this out in the field. Maybe get my first grouse or woodcock with it...

Thanks everyone I will follow up with some pictures soon

[Researcher]

The early .410-bore ammunition company catalog listings are pretty vague. This from Rem-UMC 1915-16 --

1915-16 Catalog Small Gauge Loaded Shells.jpeg

2-inch .410-bore Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co..jpg

This in the 1916 Winchester catalog --

Small Gauge, 1916 Catalog, page 208.jpg

A bit more info given here in the 1922 Western Cartridge Co. catalog, highlighted in yellow --

FIELD shells 1922 .410-bore loads highlighted in yellow.jpg

No powder or weight of shot load on the box labels though --

FIELD .410-bore load end label.jpg

[Dylan Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

The early .410-bore ammunition company catalog listings are pretty vague. This from Rem-UMC 1915-16 --

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This in the 1916 Winchester catalog --

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A bit more info given here in the 1922 Western Cartridge Co. catalog, highlighted in yellow --

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No powder or weight of shot load on the box labels though --

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24 & 35 dollars for how many? That is some money in 1916. I also rather enjoy where it says suitable for developed neighborhoods.

[Researcher]

24 & 35 dollars for how many? That is some money in 1916. I also rather enjoy where it says suitable for developed neighborhoods.

The Rem-UMC and the Western catalogs list the prices as per 1000, so I would guess the Winchester price is also per 1000.

That "developed neighborhoods" gives me pause. My aunt & uncle were in domestic service for a wealthy Chicago lawyer. After WW-II he was ready to retire and looked around the country for where he believed his money would make him live the longest. He settled on the Stanford University medical center and bought a seven acre "estate" nearby at 284 Valparaiso. When I would visit them as a teenager, I shot several quail in the orchard with my aunt's Winchester Model 37 .410-bore. A few years ago when I was in California I drove through Valparaiso and where the "estate" was it is now wall to wall Mac Mansions.

[6pt-Sika]

I’d not seen or heard of 410 2” until recently . I acquired a Belgium double hammer 410 that has 2” chambers as we speak but will soon get run out to 2 1/2” .

[Jeff K.]

Rst has 2" 410 shells. They are sweet shooting shells.

[Researcher]

Just to continue to muddy the .410-bore waters, the early Western Cartridge Co. FIELD .410-bore shells were loaded in a 2 1/8-inch case to give the loaded shells a 2-inch length --

FIELD .410-bore 2 1-8 inch.jpg

FIELD .410-bore 2 1-8 inch #10 chilled shot.jpeg