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Unread 11-23-2009, 05:47 PM   #31
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If the gun checks out and is ok ,what would it be worth?
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Nathan,I would venture a guess that the gun is a Delgrego refinished gun,Maybe a long time ago. In that second to the last picture I see a line that could indicate a sleeving job. Maybe its just the photo.Is there a 3 day inspection?
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I agree with Dave in picking up on that line across both barrels possibly being indicative of sleeved barrels.
I'm also curious about what appears to be polished rust pits on the side of the chamber area of the right barrel.
If you decide to buy it be absolutely certain you get a "no questions asked" three-day inspection period.
We're not trying to find fault with the gun but are simply pointing out possible areas of concern.
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Nothing could make those lines in the barrels except a sleeve job. Sleeved barrels will take half the value from a gun like this. The gun is also probably restocked judging from the quality of the wood. The gun is very nice, and, if it is a Del Grego full redo and restock, it would be worth a couple of grand, if the barrels were not sleeved.
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Bill,I have never seen a Del Grego gun that was sleeved. Did he do/had done this kind of work?
Other than the case colors the stock cheeks and the fluting on the nose of the comb looks very Del Grego to me.
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I think you'd change your attitude real quick, if someone came along with a Remington built Parker, in 16 gauge lifter hammer configuration, for sale.
Dave ... As I stated earlier, the fact that I hold Parker guns made by Remington and Parker Reproductions in lower esteem, doesn't mean that I would never own a Remington-Parker or a Parker Reproduction ...

And, I guess you haven't heard, but Remington never built any Remington-Parker Lifter Guns, let alone any 16 gauge Remington-Parker Lifter Guns !

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I think you'd change your attitude real quick, if someone came along with a Remington built Parker, in 16 gauge lifter hammer configuration, for sale.
Dave ... As I stated earlier, the fact that I hold Parker guns made by Remington and Parker Reproductions in lower esteem, doesn't mean that I would never own a Remington-Parker or a Parker Reproduction ...

And, I guess you haven't heard, but Remington never built any Remington-Parker Lifter Guns, let alone any 16 gauge Remington-Parker Lifter Guns, and that's lucky for me ... Remington-Parker Lifter Guns would be "morescarcer" than Invisibles and I could never afford to buy one !

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I want to thank you gentlemen for your hounesty. Did Del Grego do barrel sleeving?
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I am not aware the Del Grego did barrel sleeving but that has nothing to do with whether or not this particular gun is sleeved. No one has proven that Del Grego did the refinishing or stocking of this gun, either. It seems to be a nice gun, whoever did the work, but sleeved barrels will reduce the value.
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General comments, not particular to this gun:

The Color Case Company did lots of cyanide re-case jobs. I'm sure there are other shops. Cyanide process case hardening is a common industrial process.

Fred Wenig and Fajen's before him, turned out rough finished and machine inletted Parker stocks and forends by the hundreds, if not thousands, with downwardly fluted comb noses. They would turn out a completely checkered and finished stock for several hundred dollars for many years, Wenig work was higher cost. Their typical stock was of Iowa and Missouri black walnut stump wood.

Many, many people did barrel sleeve work, Lefever did hundreds.

Many bright cyanide case color jobs are not DelGrego work at all, but some people like to claim that a gun they are selling was redone by DelGrego because of a commonly considered good reputation.

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