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Old 03-20-2013, 08:08 PM   #21
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I agree with mr Brooks. No point ruining a nice gun. And I would be surprised if a 9 percent increase in barrel translates in to only a 9 percent decrease in preasure. Changes in bore size are rairly proportional. I believe after the wad leaves the chamber mate it no longer makes a seal in the 10ga bore and the preasure drops drasticly. If Iam wrong I am sure bsomeone will correct me.
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I use Gage Mates often. Modern 12 gauge plastic wad seal good in a 10 gauge barrel.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:14 PM   #23
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Alex Papp at RST just answered the pressure question I gave him yesterday on their 12 gauge 1 1/4 oz pheasant loads .
It is 7500 PSI

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Sweet, I'll be shooting those out of a number of my older Parkers at Turkey's, as well an old Fox or two.
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Old 03-20-2013, 08:54 PM   #24
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Pete has hit the nail on the head. I have yet to find a bird (including turkeys, ducks and geese) that can't be cleanly killed with a 1 1/8oz. trap load of hard 7 1/2's. I know many will disagree but to me the real sport is to decoy the birds in to under 35yds. and with a wonderfully full choked Parker or Fox then center the pattern on their neck/head. Thump... bird down. If the bird won't respond to my calls and decoys then he wins that day. I don't own a 10ga.(yet) but when I do I'll bump up my payload to 1 1/4oz.- 7 1/2's. Everything being equal (shot size, velocity and choke constriction) there is roughly an effective increase of 5 yds. for every 1/8oz. increase in payload up to 40yds. or so. After that it's a crapshoot. JMHO.
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I like a heavy load for waterfowl, but I'm prone to shoot at them a little further than 35 yards at times.

A friend and I do some nuisance shooting on a farm down south and sometimes the birds are very high. When you get in the groove you can kill them 70 yards plus with the right gun and load.

When I'm doing this kind of work, I either use the Parker 10 gauge magnum with 2 ounces or an Ithaca Mag 10 with 2 1/4 ounces. Just depends on how many rounds I think I'm going to have to shoot in a days time. The Parker is mighty hard on the shoulder even with the 2 ounce shells. The Mag 10 will kill them further than the Parker I'm sad to say, and is much easier on the body.

I'd love to take somebody down there shooting 1 1/4 of 7 1/2 and see how much damage they do.


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Destry;
I was referring to the good ole' days when we could shoot lead and we would shoot little creeks where our farthest shot would be 40yds. I'd never attempt a 70yd. shot with that load. I will soon have a 10 ga. and then let's see what it will do at 40+ yds. on them wary honkers.
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I shot some decoying ducks with #7 bismuth during this past season. Loads were 1 1/4 ounce, they seemed to kill them fine if they were inside 30 yards but any further and it was cripple city. I've never been a big fan of the Bismuth Cartridge Company loaded shells and that's what they were so that might have been the problem.

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I agree. The Bismuth loads did'nt pattern well and the shot was very brittle. They really did'nt transfer their energy into the bird. I'm a big fan of Nice shot for reloading and Tungsten Matrix in a factory shell. The #5's are deadly. Nice, dense pattern and plenty of energy. Boy, to be able to shoot the old lead loads again. Those were the the good ole' days.
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