2012 Vintage Cup - Page 3

George M. Purtill Member #28 · 10-02-2012, 07:32 PM

In the American Classics, which is what the Parker/Fox Challenge was scored, I shot my CHE 12 scattergun. I say scattergun because it was built with 30 inch Titanics but now is a 26 inch gun on a 2 frame. So its cylinder all around. Great for skeet but not so hot for that Addieville course.
To help me around I had a pocketful of different loads- B&P 7/8oz x #8.5, Estate 1 1/8 x #9 and Sellier 7/8oz x #8. Next time i will use a DHE 30inch full/full and mix in some of the RST spreader loads. Devinne who shot a 98 for Cup and 49 for American Classics was a constant spreader user.

I shot my 10 bore O grade hammer with 32 inch BBLS until the right hammer screw was lost. Fjellene loaned me a gun but I cant shoot like him no way no how. Used RST #8 x 1 1/8oz exclusively.

Pa SxS · 10-02-2012, 08:30 PM

OK, who's going to be the first to try 1/2 oz loads

George M. Purtill Member #28 · 10-02-2012, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop

OK, who's going to be the first to try 1/2 oz loads

Not moi. Based on my scores I need MORE shot, not less.

Dean Romig · 10-02-2012, 08:53 PM

Larry, you have the perfect stature to shoot my 9 lb. 10 ga. grade 3 lifter and I'll bring it to Georgetown with me just for you.
At Addieville I shot RST 2 7/8" Lites with 1 1/8 oz #8. First time shooting it and I shot 66%.

Autumn Daze · 10-02-2012, 09:06 PM

I shot my GHE 30" 16 gauge in the hammerless event and finished 15th out of 31 entrants besting some pretty good shooters so I feel good about that. The gun is choked full/full and I used my spreaders.

For the challenge I shot my 12 gauge skeet gun and choked big time.But I didn't feel the course was to long for the chokes in the gun.

Dean and I then shot the 12 gauge course Dean using his great new 10 gauge and I used my 30" 20 gauge and we tied on birds killed. Why I didn't just shoot the damn 20 gauge in the Challenge.....Well hindsight being 20/20 and all that...

All in all a great event and a great time. Hopefully next year will have a bit less humidity....

Bindlestiff · 10-05-2012, 09:58 PM

I went this year and was joined by my two sons and had a great day. Neither of them shoot or hunt and I think they enjoyed it to the point that the next time I ask they will be eager to tag along. Good stuff for me.

Anyway, I just returned from having a brew with one of my sons and we were talking about shooting sporting clays and he had a novel view point. He thought that sporting clays was being marketed wrong and they are missing out on a big business opportunity. I can see his point and want to share it here.

His thought was it should be more like paint ball or golf from a marketing point of view. If one people that didn't shoot wanted to try it or someone wanted to set up a bachelor party or a company wanted a bonding outing event, they can go play a round of golf or shoot paint ball but not sporting clays.

Why, because golf or paint ball has instruction for the uninitiated and equipment to provide to individuals in those kinds of situations. If a sporting clays location would advertise like the scaled Indy race car track South of Boston does or like paint ball courses do to get groups there, then they would get younger people involved and expand the exposure to sporting clays. But that would include having instructions for first time shooters and rental equipment (shotguns) too.

Much like golf, new people that never played get instructions so the feel knowledgeable and comfortable on the course their first time out and so to would new shooters on a sporting clays course. With rental equipment, someone that doesn't shoot can try it without investing money in a gun. This lack of equipment to "give it a try" probably stops lots of curious people from learning about sporting clays and limits our pool of shooters.

With a little marketing and a relatively small investment in some good reliable and inexpensive shotguns (Rem 1100 for example) and course instructors/monitors, the sport could really grow.

My sons had a great day and would do I believe will shoot many times in the future, but without me to provide a little guidance and provide the guns they would never have been exposed to sporting clays.

Thoughts?

Dean Romig · 10-05-2012, 11:03 PM

Yeah, I've got some thoughts Robin...

I think you and your son have 'nailed it' and I think this is a concept that should be passed along to places like Addieville East Farms, Hausmann's Hidden Hollow, Pintail Point, Backwoods Quail Club and any other larger scale shooting facility... perhaps some of them already do this - but it isn't something that is talked up much.

It would be like living the late twenties, thirties and forties all over again when the game of skeet caught on like wildfire. Most golf courses or clubs also had skeet and trap fields in those days and everybody encouraged everybody else to try it out. In those days skeet and trap shooting was extremely popular and I don't see why sporting clays can't be handled the same way today if enough people talk it up and get it going.

Thank you Robin. By the way, it was very nice to meet your sons... you must be very proud!!

Big D · 10-06-2012, 08:24 AM

Another approach - My son-in-law has fallen hard for sporting clays - (sorry - no Parkers) and has both hos boys shooting lots - perhaps too much, but that is another story. He has volunteered to help run a shooting club at his son's high school - nothing competitive, but at least there are about 20 boys who are learning safe and effective gun handling.

edgarspencer · 10-06-2012, 08:42 AM

I haven't been shooting Sporting Clays as long as most of you, but what little I have has been with others more experienced. Shooting at a friend's club in NY is more relaxed, and I have a host who is willing to take time for helpful instruction, which without, I'd be far worse than I am. However, the places open to the public where I have shot put pressure on the shooters to 'move along', discouraging me from asking for help, and slowing down the pack. Traditional Trap and Skeet clubs have many fields, and can dedicate one or more for instruction, but most SC courses don't have the real estate for more than 1 or 2 courses.
When I was in school, we had a riflery club and both trap and skeet. When I was asked to help out at my son's school I was put on some watch-list when I suggested something like that. I doubt many schools would adopt SC as a sport, because, as where riflery, trap and skeet are so well defined, with rules from International organizations, and accepted as Olympic sports, SC is more dynamic, less universally defined and not accepted as an Olympic sport. Way more fun in my book, and jeez I hate rules.

Dean Romig · 10-06-2012, 08:48 AM

Edgar, when we shoot as a group you may have noticed that when a group of two or three shooters comes up behind us we suggest they shoot ahead of us so they don't get stuck behind us for the whole course. We are always eager to help or suggest target shooting sequence on simo-pairs. I only wish we could get together more often. I like Addieville and have shot there quite a lot... very low pressure and the staff is the greatest.