28 ga

[Old and Reliable]

Originally Posted by greg conomos

The numbers are not altered, other than with Photoshop.

-- altered is altered, and I am surprised the PTB at Gunz&RosesBusters LTD. didn't catch that- last three (assuming a 6 digit spread) were clearly ground off when I took my Dell thingy and patrolled that goofy website-- There are more numbnutz "sellers' there who don't know the different between auto ejectors and extractor on the overpriced "beater doubles" they try to sell-and mis-represent their doubles and other gunz until who laid de rail- buy one, and try getting your $ back from some of the junkyard dawgs- good luck-- Myself, I stays ONLY with the PGCA website and the FOR SALE and wanted to buy sectors- this is a gentleman's forum, and the world gets out amongst the Parkeristas very quickly- like my late Grandfather used to say about a small town: "That's where they know real quickly if your check is good and your wife isn't"--

I could name dealers and cases that friends that have gotten "burned" on those auction sites, but I will not- I don't need a lawsuit for libel anymore than I need an overpriced Parker 28 gauge for goose and turkey hunting, thanks all the same- But, know this- if I ever come across a Parker 28 gauge or a .410 for sale privately, I will gladly pass this info along to the PGCA brothers at no charge. Myself, like Nash Buckingham, Paul A. Curtis, Ray P. Holland and others, am a 12 bore man-as in "why send a boy do to a man's job?""

[AmarilloMike]

Franicis I disagree. The last three serial numbers have been photoshopped to be unreadable. The picture has been changed, not the gun. I often see guns advertised with the serial listed as something like "105XXX". I suppose they are protecting themselves in case the gun was stolen ten years ago.

Best,

Mike

[Richard Flanders]

I inquired and the seller speculates that they chokes may have been opened. Obscuring parts of serial numbers on guns is certainly nothing new on auction sites; seems more do it than not....and I still can't fathom why. Can someone explain this? It's been a mystery to me for a long time. I can dream up an explanation but would rather someone educate me....

[Robert Delk]

I know for awhile back in the early ninety's that vendors would not allow anyone to photograph their guns at the shows because someone had taken pictures and then at a later date showed up with the cops at a gunshow and said "That gun is mine and I have the pictures to prove it." This was here in Iowa and Illinois. I heard they did the same thing with some high end antique furniture also.Don't know the particulars but I do know the high end vendors were very leery for awhile.

[Bill Anderson]

Originally Posted by Bill Anderson

In my opinion, I don't you think you have to worry about it being "snapped up" in this depressed "that's too high of a price" state of gun value mind set that we are in. To me saying you would buy it "but", is the gentleman's way of saying it is priced too high for today's market. Besides the seller stating it is choked IC & IC for a 28 gauge tells me the barrels have been most likely messed with. A real turn off for me.

Bill

Stated as BuyNow! dream gun price for some. Unrealistic price for today's market for me, as I said when it first showed up on May 29. Will probably be on there til waaaaay after the cows come home.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=243284971

Bill

[Old and Reliable]

Named after Elsie MI- on M-57 and then South- near Ovid-- I just picked up a Ithaca grade 2 Flues 28 gauge with 26" barrels uncut, DT, EXT- choked 1 rt. barrel and 3 left barrel- and half a box of older tan paper 2 &7/8" Western No 8 shot and a leather gun slip- but from a private party, not a dealer or wheeler-dealer on Gun Busters-- no where near the ridiculous price range asked for this Parker with the altered barrels- gun had been in storage for years- no rust- good blue and wood, uncut- light as a feather- perhaps that's where Ithaca got their "Feather-Lite" trade mark from- Will use it for twitty birds at one farm loaded with starlings and blackbirds--Now I have to make friends with a skeet-ist who reloads 28 gauge hulls- pricey little beggars to feed-

[Bruce Day]

Originally Posted by Richard Flanders

I inquired and the seller speculates that they chokes may have been opened. Obscuring parts of serial numbers on guns is certainly nothing new on auction sites; seems more do it than not....and I still can't fathom why. Can someone explain this? It's been a mystery to me for a long time. I can dream up an explanation but would rather someone educate me....

How about these?

1. Stolen Gun Concerns: They bought the gun at a gun show from a young man with prison tatoos who asked "how much kin ah git fur dis gun, quick?".

2. Gubermint police concerns. You know there is this underground place in Washington where there are hundreds of people employed by the Obama administration to watch all the web sites and ads and connect gun SN's to names. Then when the Pres signs over the Constitution to foreign powers, the police will pound on your door and demand your guns.

3. Undifferentiated Paranoia. You know people are everywhere watching you. They are watching your house right now and wanting your guns and your stash of quarters from all the states. When you go out, they track where you have been. They are going to get your guns and check them off by serial number. The only way to defeat them is to wear this aluminum foil hat which prevents them from hearing your thoughts.

[Bill Faulk]

i totaly agree..Curly

[Bill Murphy]

For the third, maybe the fourth time since I met him, I agree with Bruce Day. This is bullshit. We can see the serial numbers at gun shows. What is the big deal about seeing them on the net?

[Brush Buster]

I'll throw my two cents in here also ,I totally agree with both of you fellas ,The serial # is the first item I request if I contact a seller , if he refuses to give it to me and some do ,I have no interest in the gun ,at that point ,it's a reversal in thinking for me and I wonder what it is he has to hide ! Just my thoughts on the subject . Russ