New Powders and Primers on the Horizon

[Double Lab]

Great description with a "dishrag" hit. Sort of like "inkballing" a clay.

Yes custom loading is a huge benefit. I love the 3/4oz load in the 20ga and in the 12ga. Try and find them at your LGS.

[Bill Murphy]

Stan, what is that tool you have chucked into the drill press? I've been using a regular folded crimp on my 3" .410s, but I'm up to trying a roll crimp.

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Daryl Corona

The real savings are in the 28 and .410.

....and Short 10 along with any bismuth load.

[Stan Hillis]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

Stan, what is that tool you have chucked into the drill press? I've been using a regular folded crimp on my 3" .410s, but I'm up to trying a roll crimp.

Bill, that is a MEC Super Sizer. The collets interchange for most common gauges. I prefer to use it when resizing hulls that will be reloaded on my single stage presses that don't have a collet resizer. Collet resizing is effortless as compared to ring sizing.


The trick is that I discovered it was the best possible shell holding tool for roll crimping on my drill press. You just hold it tight enough to keep it from spinning. Quick and easy, and keeps you from having to purchase a separate shell holder for the roll crimping process.

[Bill Murphy]

Stan, I know what the Super Sizer is. What is the utensil that creates the roll crimp, and where can I find one?

[Stan Hillis]

Oh, my bad. I didn't read your post closely enough.

It is a 3 pin roll crimper that was produced by a small company/person a few years ago, but is no longer available. It was marketed by the company "Reloader's Network", but a buddy just recently checked on one and said no longer available.

There are other brands that are available, however.

https://www.precisionreloading.com/c...#!l=MM&i=RC410

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/GA...nfo/GAEPC0241/

[J. A. EARLY]

[QUOTE=Stan Hillis;421617]Indeed, and in addition you can create loads that are not available for sale anywhere. For example, I created a 3" .410 load for doves and quail that holds .73 oz. of nickel plated lead.

Stan,

I think I may have asked before and received the 3/4 oz load from you, but can you share it again? I know that 3/4 oz. was common in .410 before plastic hulls and wads but I have not seen them anymore, only 11/16 oz.

Thanks

[Stan Hillis]

I'll look it up in the shop today and post it this evening, Jerry, if I can remember.

Winchester still markets these in various shot sizes, if you can find them. They're the next best thing to the custom load I use.

https://winchester.com/Products/Ammu...uper-X/X413H85

[Bill Murphy]

Thanks, Stan. I believe my 3" loads in Remington cases are an honest 3/4 ounce, at least the bushing is a 3/4 ounce bushing. When I get a chance, I will weigh the charge. I found the 600 Junior at my gun club with a "FREE" sign on it. I took it home, cleaned it up, weighed the powder charge, and started pulling the handle. I saw no reason the weigh the shot, but I assume it is 3/4 ounce. The finished shells are to die for, with a nice folded crimp.

[J. Scott Hanes]

Has anyone cut down one of those "3/4" oz loads from Winchester to see if that weight has been achieved? Perhaps the lower powder charge allows for the extra 1/16 oz.